Watch out: Proviron IS suppressive (lab results)

[Slyder190]

I beleived it to be true from all I had read researched, and I was right.

 

[Mavy]

I like proviron during pct, but not everyday...just those days when I'm going out on a date, or might get some. I figure take turns with this and cialis, and you shouldn't be taking proviron for more than a couple days/week.

Bro you have to use proviron continuosly to get the libido and wood effects, not like Viagra where you can pop one and get wood in an hour.

Anakin, I would suggest a mild dose of HCG, nothing drastic, (or high enough to de-sensitize your LH receptors), along with the nolvadex to kickstart your balls back into production mode. How long has it been since you last shot?

 

[Mavy]

I like using proviron, for the 3 week period between the last shot of a long ester and the beginning of PCT.

 

[Anakin]

Mavy, my last shot of primo was on December 14 I believe. I know it is a long ester etc etc but I find it interesting that only once I dropped the primo did my LH and FSH jump up from zero.

 

[blut wump]

i wouldnt always jump to conclusions like that... i read a post that explains why bro...The auditive capacity of the limbs of Aracnhaie spiderman .
Klutz et al, dep. of Sciences, University of Junk Science, Moronóvia

Objective:
To proof that the auditive apparatus of spiders is in their legs.

Methods:
We divided 20 spider in 2 groups;
Group A has all legs,
Group B had all legs cut off.
We made a loud noise and only spiders from group A moved.

Conclusions

Without their legs, spiders cannot hear.

I think there's a flaw in this experiment. There should be a control group to which were fitted some prosthetic spider legs. With the experiment as presented, it's possible that the spiders were traumatized into deafness. With some prosthetics attached they wouldn't be so upset at losing their legs.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Any time the body gets an exogenous compound it will...

A: develop a tolerance

B: develop a dependance. (In other words, supressive).

It's biology 101.

Who was it that was breaking my balls about this? -- saying that some Medline study showed proviron wasn't supressive so it was okay to use as much as you want for as long as you want and how I don't cite scientific studies and blah, blah, blah, blah...

Simple biology my friends.

Proviron is cerainly LESS suppresive than AAS and is okay when used to cushion a crash, and it's actually an under rated anti e. But there are no free rides. People must begin to accept this, but some are still stuck in the "Fonz" era where as you can cut and paste a random study that supports your belief you can do whatever you want with no consequences.

This is one of the concepts behind UNLEASHED. A supplement that lowers SH BG like Proviron with no supression -- because it doesn't ADD anything. It just blocks the enzyme which constricts free testosterone from being released. Pretty clever actually.

 

[artificialaspirations]

I think there's a flaw in this experiment. There should be a control group to which were fitted some prosthetic spider legs. With the experiment as presented, it's possible that the spiders were traumatized into deafness. With some prosthetics attached they wouldn't be so upset at losing their legs.

Or they couldn't move because they didn't HAVE LEGS.

 

[slat1]

I have done extensive research on proviron and its effects.
There is a lot of conflicting reports out there.
Until someone gets blood work done competely clean, then runs proviron and gets it done, then comes off and gets it done the debate will rage on.
For me, when there is conflicting info I side with that it is supressive. It is the responsible thing to do!

 

[blut wump]

Any time the body gets an exogenous compound it will...

A: develop a tolerance

B: develop a dependance. (In other words, supressive).

It's biology 101.

Who was it that was breaking my balls about this? -- saying that some Medline study showed proviron wasn't supressive so it was okay to use as much as you want for as long as you want and how I don't cite scientific studies and blah, blah, blah, blah...

Simple biology my friends.

Proviron is cerainly LESS suppresive than anabolic androgenic steroids and is okay when used to cushion a crash, and it's actually an under rated anti e. But there are no free rides. People must begin to accept this, but some are still stuck in the "Fonz" era where as you can cut and paste a random study that supports your belief you can do whatever you want with no consequences.

This is one of the concepts behind UNLEASHED. A supplement that lowers SH BG like Proviron with no supression -- because it doesn't ADD anything. It just blocks the enzyme which constricts free testosterone from being released. Pretty clever actually.

We're just coming to the end of a rather lengthy discussion at AFboard on this very topic, if you're interested in participating. I'm sure that your opinions would be valued there.

 

[Nelson Montana]

We're just coming to the end of a rather lengthy discussion at AFboard on this very topic, if you're interested in participating. I'm sure that your opinions would be valued there.

Hmm, I have a hard time believing that since it never was before by the people who run it.