two options, which one?

[marcu_s]

hey guys.

ive been planing to do a cycle for some time but havent decided what cycle would be best. for a first time user.

stats
183 cm
90 kg

dead 180 kg 1 rep max
bench 110 6 reps

not the best stats i know but itll do
training for 3, almost 4 years, weights only.

anyway and the alternatives are eather

1. 50 mg test p ed along whit 400 mg primobolan ew for 8-9 weeks
(dont really know how long it will take for the primo to kick, have only read

info on bodybuilding.com and another site but havent find anything saying

anything about that)
what do u think ?

and can i make good gains on this one, or would the gains be as good if i didnt have primo in the stack?

2. 50 mg test p ed w1-5 and week 10-12
250 mg test c ew w1-10


im coconcerned about my rats hair so ill use 0.5 mg duta ed, the liquid stuff from ag.

ill also have nolva, adex and letro at home, all of them from ag also.

have diet in check, been in check for a few years so no problem.

so what do u think about this cycle?

one thing more, one friend i have, keeps telling me that test is just shit when it comes in mass.

that ill only retain water and when im done whit the cycle and it goes away that ill be back on track one.

what up whit that?

pct:

250 iu hcg w 6-14 wendsday and friday
40 mg nolva ed w 12-16

what do u guys think?

 

[Hyphycakes]

Age bro, anyway the 2nd option is the best. No need to frontload. Test not being mass? TEST IS KING!

 

[marcu_s]

Age bro, anyway the 2nd option is the best. No need to frontload. Test not being mass? TEST IS KING!

just turned 23

 

[bw1]

hey guys.

ive been planing to do a cycle for some time but havent decided what cycle would be best. for a first time user.

stats
183 cm
90 kg

dead 180 kg 1 rep max
bench 110 6 reps

not the best stats i know but itll do
training for 3, almost 4 years, weights only.

anyway and the alternatives are eather

1. 50 mg test p ed along whit 400 mg primobolan ew for 8-9 weeks
(dont really know how long it will take for the primo to kick, have only read

info on bodybuilding.com and another site but havent find anything saying

anything about that)
what do u think ?

and can i make good gains on this one, or would the gains be as good if i didnt have primo in the stack?

2. 50 mg test p ed w1-5 and week 10-12
250 mg test c ew w1-10


im coconcerned about my rats hair so ill use 0.5 mg duta ed, the liquid stuff from ag.

ill also have nolva, adex and letro at home, all of them from ag also.

have diet in check, been in check for a few years so no problem.

so what do u think about this cycle?

one thing more, one friend i have, keeps telling me that test is just shit when it comes in mass.

that ill only retain water and when im done whit the cycle and it goes away that ill be back on track one.

what up whit that?

pct:

250 iu hcg w 6-14 wendsday and friday
40 mg nolva ed w 12-16

what do u guys think?

Test only is a good first cycle. Post up your diet, lets start there. I bet we will get a lot of answers with that.

 

[GUARDIAN]

primo is not a bad choice for a 1st cycle with a small dose of test.

u could even get away with primo only.

 

[marcu_s]

riht now, its my offseason and im on 4000 cals a day
40% carbs 20% prot and 30% fat

before ill start my cycle i will proberbly cut a few pounds so i can gain but still bet between 12-17 % when ill do my pct.

for foods its the usual stuff

proteinpowders
gainers
tuna
chicken

oatmeal
pasta wholegrain

omega 3
oliveoil
multivitamins

 

[marcu_s]

primo is not a bad choice for a 1st cycle with a small dose of test.

u could even get away with primo only.

so what could a cycle like that look like?

 

[advanced-stealth]

#2

 

[GUARDIAN]

so what could a cycle like that look like?

1-12 Primo 400mg ew
1-12 Test/C 200mg ew

 

[michaelChicago]

1-12 Primo 400mg ew
1-12 Test/C 200mg ew

a dose of primo that works?

300 mg is enough ?

to 205 lbs aprox