Topical fat loss cream/liquid users read this…

[NY Muscle]

Iv’e used oral yohimbine before my cardio on and off for the past few years, I also used Dan Duchaines Yo-Be-Lean with nice results, I also used to crush up yohmbine hcl tabs and mix it with DMSO ..AND coleus forskholi powder…the addition of the coleus I feel was a great improvement on the end result of fat loss…

Was wondering what the yohimburn gurus (macro and utler) feel on the addition of coleus forshkoli (smells nasty and makes u all brown) to the yohimburn. I read somewhere back in the day that coleus along with some other compounds would make an ideal topical fat loss agent.


Also I find currently good results with yohimburn then the days you dont take it rub some Thiomucase cream allover your abs/love handles/chest

 

[GT302]

About spot reduction.

Hi NY Muscle, I personally haven´t tried Yohimburn, but here in Mexico we have used injectable Carnitine plus another lipolitic agents to reduce the fat in our problem areas.

I posted something a few weeks, most of this info is in the spanish board, actually we are using a lipolitic cocktail of injectable carnitine and amps named Metabolites and Lipodistrofin, works wonders in the ab area.

By the way, we are using the real TRIAC in amps of pharmaceutical grade (in spanish is spelled "Ácido triyodo tiroacético") with injectable phosphatidilcoline (Lipostabil fromo Italy) and another extracts in amps, is so new that we are hoping that the use of mesotherapy will be in the mouth of everything in a year or more time.

Have you thought about making injectable yohimbine as Dan sugest in his old MM2K articles?

Greats arms dude.

Hope this help.

 

[NY Muscle]

Re: About spot reduction.

Hi NY Muscle, I personally haven´t tried Yohimburn, but here in Mexico we have used injectable Carnitine plus another lipolitic agents to reduce the fat in our problem areas.

I posted something a few weeks, most of this info is in the spanish board, actually we are using a lipolitic cocktail of injectable carnitine and amps named Metabolites and Lipodistrofin, works wonders in the ab area.

By the way, we are using the real TRIAC in amps of pharmaceutical grade (in spanish is spelled "Ácido triyodo tiroacético") with injectable phosphatidilcoline (Lipostabil fromo Italy) and another extracts in amps, is so new that we are hoping that the use of mesotherapy will be in the mouth of everything in a year or more time.

Have you thought about making injectable yohimbine as Dan sugest in his old MM2K articles?

Greats arms dude.

Hope this help.

im afraid of doing the injectible yohimbine but have thought about it fo yrs.

i also bought a few of the injectable carnitine amps when i was in mexico, was gonna see if it worked on my buddys bitch tits as this is what it was rumored to help

where do you shoot the carnitine and do you notice any results??

 

[macrophage69alpha]

site injecting yohimbine is
a. very painful-- usually after..
b. often leads to rapid systemic uptake
c. adds scar tissue.
d. is not necessary.

btw- there are several injectable yohimbine available for veterinary use in mexico.. if you are dead set on trying it.

as far as injectable carnitine??? have heard some decent feed back.. but it wont help with A2 rich tissue, or its effects will be blunted.. it may work well in abs as this tissue is less A2 dense..

NOTE- the science does not support l-carnitine working.. but science can be flawed..

 

[macrophage69alpha]

as far as coleus.. it has been considered but the science is VERY WEAK.. and while DMSO may allow it to penetrate.. it is not clear whether OTHER agent might be used(cant use DMSO in a commercial product).. though it has not been ruled out at this point..

 

[GT302]

More about fat spot reduction.

Hi:

im afraid of doing the injectible yohimbine but have thought about it fo yrs.

- It makes sense what macrophague discuss, but as same as with the Injectable Carnitine, the use of this stuff, is to inject subcutaneous, not intramuscular, to make the carnitine work in local form no sistemic, is that the carntine stays in the fat, no the muscle, we have developed a methodology to cycle and administer this lipotropics, lipolytic cocktails.

Carnitine is pretty cheap in Mexico, a box of Cardispan stays as low as 10 bucks for 5 amps of 1 g of pure carnitine.

The other lipolitic agents are from Spain, Macro, I think that the scar tissue issue, can be lessened with the proper gauge and a correct pathway to administer (inject) it and as we already mention, the methodology to use cardispan includes the use of a local anesthesic, to lessen the pain.

The only issue is how disposable can be the yohimbine to work in a sistemic way if let it in the fat area and no in the muscle area.


i also bought a few of the injectable carnitine amps when i was in mexico, was gonna see if it worked on my buddys bitch tits as this is what it was rumored to help

- Remember that the carnitine works to mobilize the fat, not to destroy the adypocites, never heard of this working in the nipples to reduce gyno.

where do you shoot the carnitine and do you notice any results??

- The carnitine in the ab area, and the place that yo call love handles, but the TRIAC and the spain stuff can be used in the triceps or hip area. And the results are pretty amazing when you follow a strict diet and make your cardio.

We combine the mesotherapy with another things as the Thiomucase cream and the use of lipotropics in pharmaceutical grade, here are cheap.

In Mexico city, for example, you can charge a session of this aplications as much as 40 dollars.

One every week adds a very sustantial amount to the Proffesional Trainer thats knows the correct way to administer it.

I rate in results first.

Injectable TRIAC, yes, the same stuff that Syntrax sold but in amps and in pharmaceutical grade, plus Carnitine inj, Organic Silicio, Alcachofa extract and Procaine.

Then..

Metabolites, Lipodistrofin (both from Spain) and Lipotropics such Carnitine and Lipostabil.


And last

Carnitine inj alone.

I preffer use with my clients first the Carnitine alone for a few months, then the Spanish amps/lipotropics combo and last the TRIAC with his respective kit.

I can assure that the effects in fat reduction are excellent, but not as fast and noticeable as the use of GH, but a fraction of the cost it can help to reduce the fat in hard to metabolize fat areas.

Thanks for your response.

 

[the gringo]

Mesotherapy in Mexico

GT302:

I tried a lot of the mesotherapy remedies in Mexico and found no major difference in abdominal fat distribution. Costly, too -- 200 pesos a session.

Specifically, my homeopatista used a procaine/lymphomyosot cocktail. The German company Heel makes the latter.

I'm eager to sample the other stuff you recommended. But, at the same time, there are reservations. To me, DNP has always been the best weapon in waist-size reduction. Unfortunately, the product I found in Mexico tends to be very impure or underdosed.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

still open to the possiblity of carnitine effectiveness.. but science says otherwise.. even where cellular concentrations were more than doubled..

will find the study and post later

 

[jboldman]

Years ago i came up with a working formula for topical fat loss that consisted of yohimbine hcl, coleus forskolin, and aminophilin all in a dmso base. i found it to be very effective if you were already fairly lean. We talked about it on several boards. I would have to dig around to find it now. There is some clinical support for the Yhcl and aminiophilin, added the cf since that seemed like a reasonable addition.

jb

as far as coleus.. it has been considered but the science is VERY WEAK.. and while DMSO may allow it to penetrate.. it is not clear whether OTHER agent might be used(cant use DMSO in a commercial product).. though it has not been ruled out at this point..

 

[GT302]

More facts about inj. Carnitine.

Macro and the Elite members, hope this help.

Please, I don´t sell Carnitine and I don´t plan to do such thing, please, don´t email me asking for this stuff, thanks.

- Carnitine inj in Mexico is found in "Cardispan" from labs GROSSMAN.

- It´s therapeutic use is to treat someone after a Heart Atack, via IV, that´s what Grossman made for the Cardispan.

- In a survey 90 % of Cardiologists in Mexico are unkown of Cardispan, Versus a 90 % of Nutritionist and Profesional Trainers that use the Cardispan widely.

- Labs Grossman deny the fact that Cardispan can works as fat spot reducing agent, but definetly it works big time.

- I´m the assistant of Dr that is an especialista in Pharmacology and Sports Nutrition, the only I´m aware in Mexico and central America that works with Bodybuilders and Fitness enthusiasts.

- The methodology is still knwon to many people that continue injectin Cardispan IM, and not put anesthesia on this combo, is very painful inject Cardispan by itself an d you have to use the proper gauge to not cause scar tissue.

- Beside this Macro, we use Metionine an Carnitine in oral form, works very well with out side effects, the dosages are around 2 grams a day of carnitine an 1 g a day of Metionine, as I say you before, it works very well as this oral lipotropicos works in sistemic way, and the inj form in local way.

- Remember that I said that we are combining Cardispan with another lipolitic-lipotropic amps, Lipostabil from Italy and the newest even in Mexico TRIAC.

- No, it´s no gonna work if you integral program is poor, I mean, yo don´t follow a diet to lose fat and not make your cardio 3 o 4 times a week. But if everything is in order, you can lose fat very fast in these places, such as the lower abs and in the midsection overall.

P.D.

I have more info on differente topics, such as a corect way to administer Kynoselen and more stuff that we are searching and using in our little inv center here in Mexico City.

See ya!