Starting my first cycle soon, test e, deca, info...???

[Tommytank]

Proviron for use during cycle. #

 

[wootoom]

Deca is a horrible first cycle.


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[RickRock13]

You should definitely keep it simple for your first cycle bro. Test only with an oral kickstart is plenty. Let me lay it out for you

Test E 1-12 500mg per week (injected twice per week)
Dbol 1-4 30mg per day
N2guard 1-12
HCGenerate 1-12
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

PCT

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Formastanozol 5 pumps twice daily (MR Supps)
Test Stack 17 or PHYTOSERMS (see link below for info and discounts)
Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...hytoserms-347-347-beyond-natural-1260633.html

 

[Tommytank]

Hey guys, so my gear finally arrived... Pretty chuffed actually nearly started to worry... Anyway got 3500mg test.e gen shi. 60 nolva... Tamoxifen teva? 20 bayer proviron. 30 clomy, 2 vials deca ( dated June 2014 bit gutted as I'm dropping the deca and didn't plan on doin 2nd cycle so soon.)

I plan to kick the test with dianabol for the first 4 weeks so will order 60 10mg tabs gen shi...

I only have enough test to spread over 8 weeks if I dose at 250 mg week one and 2 and 500mg weeks 3-8 that would leave me enough nolva for 1 a day over the 8 weeks and enough clomy for 2 weeks 1 a day 2 weeks after the last jab.

I'm struggling to decide what to do with the proviron should I take it post cycle alongside the clomy or get more and use throughout with the test? Also is 8 weeks gna cut it my first cycle or should I pick up some more test and nolva to last 10 or 12...? I think the nolva is 10 mg but I've just stashed all the gear and can't remember properly lol will obvs double check before I start after New year... Is 10 mg sufficient per day and should I take it from start of cycle?

My other wonder was if 250mg over the 12 weeks would do better than squeezing it into 8 at higher dosage for the last 6?

As a bonus I got some stuff called tadalofil too... I've kinda read up it's like Viagra but never heard of it so wanted your opinions...

Been a great help so far guys all ur input is welcome... I feel a little less blind going into this now thanks...

 

[know your compunds]

Keep it simple for your first cycle. You do not need Deca on any cycle due to the sides and the way it shuts you down. You need or should have done a simple Test/Dbol classic cycle. Your first cycle is usually your best cycle as far as having fresh receptors and being able to see noticeable gains as long as your diet and training are in line.
Week 1-8
Test 500mg per week Test E
Week 1-4
Dbol 40mg per day

Also you need to line a better PCT up especially if you are running Deca? Do some research on PCT programs through Needtobuildmuscle.com.

you do not know what you are talking about that is too much test and too much water retention