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AS"s and HIV


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Excerpt: Anabolic Steroids It is noteworthy that the two completed growth hormone trials took two years to get into print after they were completed. This was true despite the fact that rHGH and IGF are both hi- tech, high-visibility products with very active corporate sponsors. As growth hormone research grinds on, alternatives exist at the grassroots level that cost one-tenth of what rHGH does.

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    It is noteworthy that the two completed growth hormone trials
    took two years to get into print after they were completed.
    This was true despite the fact that rHGH and IGF are both hi-
    tech, high-visibility products with very active corporate
    sponsors.

    As growth hormone research grinds on, alternatives exist at
    the grassroots level that cost one-tenth of what rHGH does.
    These are anabolic steroids, which body builders and other
    athletes use to increase their muscle mass and stamina. The
    anabolic steroid family includes testosterone and synthetic
    derivatives with fewer androgenic (masculinizing) effects.

    A number of knowledgeable AIDS specialists have been
    prescribing testosterone to patients complaining of weight
    reductions plus loss of libido [see the interview with Lisa
    Capaldini, M.D., in AIDS TREATMENT NEWS #184]. But just
    correcting the frequent mild testosterone deficiencies is
    often not enough, and boosting testosterone levels above
    normal can have adverse consequences, including liver
    toxicities. This is where the synthetic anabolic steroids
    come in.

    Despite anabolic steroids' "schedule III" legal status (they
    are controlled substances on the same level as aspirin-
    codeine combinations), a considerable anabolic steroid lore
    has accumulated in the sports world,(7) and HIV-positive body
    builders have brought that information to the AIDS community.

    One such bridge is Brian Chadsey, M.D., a Los Angeles
    physician who is a former football player and body builder.
    Chadsey has been looking at anabolic steroids' effect on HIV
    wasting for eight years. He currently has almost 100 patients
    using the substances. "I've had phenomenal results," said Dr.
    Chadsey, "with patients commonly gaining 20 or 30 pounds.
    Anabolic steroids are useful when people have unintentional
    weight losses of ten percent, low testosterone levels and
    decreases in daily functioning. Most doctors tell their
    patients to just live with weight loss, that it's part of the
    disease process. But wasting syndrome is probably an
    escalating event that leads to early death." [See AIDS
    TREATMENT NEWS #150 and #166 for two other physicians'
    experience with anabolic steroids.]

    Dr. Chadsey also reports significant improvements in his
    patients' immune cell populations while on anabolic steroids.
    Three-quarters of his patients witnessed rises in their CD8
    (cytotoxic lymphocyte) counts and 40 percent have had
    increases in CD4, or T-helper cell levels.

    In Sacramento, California, Michael Dullnig, M.D., a
    psychiatrist, also drew on his weightlifting past when trying
    to control his own HIV-associated weight loss. Dr. Dullnig
    started personally taking anabolic steroids last spring, when
    a bout of mycobacterium avium left him 50 pounds below normal
    weight, extremely weak, and disabled in one leg. After
    following an individual regimen since May that includes
    anabolic steroids, extensive use of nutritional supplements,
    and a rigorous weight-training schedule, Dullnig said, "I'm
    back to the way I looked before, and my energy has returned.
    I feel like my life was given back to me."

    Dullnig thinks that "exercise is the key. Steroids make cells
    receptive to building tissue, but you need exercise to
    stimulate the anabolic process. The right nutrients are also
    very important. This is like another period of adolescence."
    He does warn against overtraining, though. People need to pay
    attention to their physical limitations. Dr. Chadsey says
    that not all his patients are on exercise programs, although
    those who are get better results.

    The murky social and legal atmosphere surrounding anabolic
    steroids makes it difficult for people with HIV to obtain the
    substances or even reliable information about their proper
    use. Expert supervision when using anabolic steroids is
    especially important for women, who should take lower doses
    than men and need to follow a regimen with little potential
    for androgenic side effects.

    And following an extensive exercise and food supplementation
    program is an obstacle for many people who are sick and lack
    stamina or digestive capacity. These are just the people who
    need the most protection from wasting.

    Researchers justify focusing their attention on growth
    hormone because of such objections, but more clinical trials
    of anabolic steroids could also provide important
    information. Dr. Kotler, at St. Luke's/Roosevelt Hospital in
    New York, is in a unique position in that he is conducting
    separate clinical trials on both anabolic steroids and human
    growth hormone. Dr. Kotler says that, although the data has
    not been analyzed yet, the results of the two trials seem
    similar, with about half the people showing considerable
    improvement in body composition. Those who do not are people
    who come down with severe opportunistic infections.
    Meanwhile, no major side effects with either the anabolic
    steroid (in this case oral oxandrolone) or rHGH have been
    observed.

    So which therapy is more appropriate? Dr. Kotler said, "We
    can't tell yet whether anabolic steroids, human growth
    hormone, or just testosterone replacement, is best. I don't
    even know whether any of these are good long term or have
    hidden side effects."

    Dr. Chadsey is also looking into using growth hormone to
    combat wasting. He thinks a combination of anabolic steroids
    and growth hormone may be desirable. "You need some
    androgenic effect to increase the reaction to growth
    hormone," he said.

    Future therapies may well be tailored to the individual,
    based on an analysis of each person's hormonal and immune
    activity as well as overall disease state. Personal tolerance
    to the different therapies would be a factor, too.

    Dr. Hellerstein speculated, "We may use a mixture of
    approaches depending on what people need: anabolic steroids
    for those with low testosterone, human growth hormone to
    correct metabolic imbalances, immune modulators to balance
    the immune system's effects, nutritional supplementation for
    malabsorbers, plus exercise for those who are able to do it."


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    millgirl have you tried asking your doc about prescribing some roids to you for therapeutic purposes? it's worth a shot and would be legal.

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