"First" Cycle after long abstinence

[HelloWWW]

Hi,
this is my first post ever made in a forum. I am planning on doing my "first" cycle after a long time ( about eight years) of steroids abstinence.

If anybody dont understand me please tell me, english is not my mothertongue.

In my early twenties I used a lot of steroids. My plan on doing a 250mg Test E e5d cycle for 12 weeks ended in a blast and cruise for about 3.5 years with Test E and Tren E. I really had no clue what I do. I stopped the roids without taking any pct. After a very bad time my body works normal now. Thank God I dont need TRT.

Now i am older and hopefull smarter.

Btw: I am over 30. About 85kg and bf about 11-12%.

I appreciate it if somebody give me a feedback on this cycle and especially about the PCT and stuff like HCG, because I read alot of different things about it.

Cycle:
Test P 1 - 12 50mg ed
Tren A 1 - 10 75mg ed
Caber 1 - 12 0.25mg e3d
Aromasin 1 - 12 12.5mg ed
HCG 250iu three times a week. Stop HCG 3 days before last Test P shot.

PCT:
Begin with PCT after three days of my last Test P shot.

Tamoxifen: 80/80/60/40
Aromasin : 12.5mg e3d
Caber: 0.25mg e3d

I Clomid a must have? I read this and that about it.

Is Caber neceassary in cycle?

Would you use caber in pct?

The most probs i have with hcg. Some say only during cycle, some say the last weeks of the cycle with high dosage, the other only include it in there PCT. Whats your suggestion?

Thanks for reading.
kind regards

 

[stevesmi]

i would lower your tren dose a bit

no need for hcg in that cycle man.. does you not a damn thing! also anyone who told you to use it during pct should be called out for being a fucking imbecile!

also for pct run the perfect pct, you will not be able to recover from such a long and aggressive cycle with an AI and a SERM.. that is why so many guys are on TRT at 30 years old, shitty pct's pushed on forums..

 

[Lev Butlerov]

Some insights of mine for your cycle:
1. Use aromasin EOD - there is no need to use it ED at such a dosage. Remember - killing off your estrogen is not good either.
2. Yes, you need to use cabergoline, since trenbolone will increase your prolactin levels.
3. There is absolutely no need to use HCG, neither on cycle, nor on PCT. It will do more harm than good.
4. Your PCT is very weak - if you want to avoid having trouble again, consider running the perfect PCT protocol - https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[muskate]

Check out this video I made on how to properly run a test/tren cycle -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/video-trenbolone-explained-47719.html

Heres what I recommend

Cycle:
Test P 1 - 12 50mg ed
Tren A 1 - 12 75mg ed
Caber 1 - 12 0.25mg e3d
Aromasin 1 - 12 12.5mg eod
cardarine 1-12 20mg/day

PCT:
Perfect PCT protocol -> https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[HelloWWW]

Thanks for your reply. Then I will start my cycle like muskate said:

Cycle:
Test P 1 - 12 50mg ed
Tren A 1 - 12 75mg ed
Caber 1 - 12 0.25mg e3d
Aromasin 1 - 12 12.5mg eod
cardarine 1-12 20mg/day

Before I start I will checkout and read more about the PCT Protocol you all mentioned.

Short question for the cycle again. Should I run tren a little bit earlier then Testo P? Tren 10 weeks, test p 12 weeks or both 12 weeks?

Thanks for helping me out.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Thanks for your reply. Then I will start my cycle like muskate said:

Cycle:
Test P 1 - 12 50mg ed
Tren A 1 - 12 75mg ed
Caber 1 - 12 0.25mg e3d
Aromasin 1 - 12 12.5mg eod
cardarine 1-12 20mg/day

Before I start I will checkout and read more about the PCT Protocol you all mentioned.

Short question for the cycle again. Should I run tren a little bit earlier then Testo P? Tren 10 weeks, test p 12 weeks or both 12 weeks?

Thanks for helping me out.

I really like this layout. I think you will have a great cycle. After being off for so long I think you will respond really well if you have your diet and training locked in.