Quitting after juicing from age 19 to 26.

[BEEFCAKEZ]

Long story short:

Started taking antidepressants at age 19 for life-numbing depression/social anxiety, and started jucing just a few months later. I stayed on with no regard for my future or TRT. Diet has been god/bad on and off, but workout has been consistent. My exaggerated partylife reached a high around 2 years ago, and now it's just in rare occacions.

I have done both mild and heavy cycles, and have been more on than off. Especially in the last few years. It started off with a simple test cycle in the beginning, to taking 800 mg test / 750 mg tren around 2 years ago. The last couple of years I have stuck mostly to low doses like 250 mg test and 400 mg masteron, maybe with 50 mg/day winstrol or anavar. And then cruising on test in between.

Recently I have realised that I might have ADHD, and after consulting with a doctor it was a yes. I went off the antidepressants 2 months ago, and doing quite well. This led me to think about getting off the juice, so here I am. I have tried to get off before, but have stooped into bad depression, insecurity and self conciousness. But PCT / restart hasn't really ever been good enough.

So here is my temporary plan, open for complete change and input.

Last shot - 3 weeks after: HCG 500 UI 2x/wk (possibly HMG?)
Week 3-4: Nothing
First day of week 4: Triptorelin 1x 200 mcg
Week 4-...: Clomid 50mg/day + 2-3 other pct remedies (suggestions?)

I am not looking for lectures, I am looking for solutions. Real help that actually works / might work. Any ideas are welcome, thank you!

Stats: 26 yo, 6'1", 220 lbs, approx 12% bodyfat.

 

[stevesmi]

if you have been on roids from 19 for that long, plus abusing anti depressants and other drugs/alcohol then a 4 week pct isn't going to help you... just being real with you

there is a small chance you will ever recover, but it doesn't look good. I have studied hundreds of blood work from guys over the years, you should see my inbox how many people message me. so I have a very good sense of who has a chance to recover and who doesn't. I have a fantastic PCT protocol in my signature so I could easily tell you to go on that and all will be back to normal.. but it would be wishful thinking. I can tell you right now in my extensive experience that when you hop on gear under 22-23 years old that the chances of recovering your HPTA are near 0%. the reason is you are interfering with your pituitary glands to where you are causing permanent damage, while your hormones are going through major changes. now someone who runs 1 or 2 short cycles when they are young is very different, but from what you wrote you pretty much stayed on for many years straight + took other testosterone killing drugs too

either you will need a very long and extensive PCT.. I am talking 3-4 months worth. or you will need TRT for life. anyone who honestly tells you that a 4 week nolva/clomid pct will do anything for you is simply lying and/or badly misinformed. those drugs may TEMPORARILY boost your LH and T levels and hcg will cause a rise in T and estrogen, but I promise you that when you stop taking them you will crash right back down to earth

 

[muskate]

if you have been on roids from 19 for that long, plus abusing anti depressants and other drugs/alcohol then a 4 week pct isn't going to help you... just being real with you

there is a small chance you will ever recover, but it doesn't look good. I have studied hundreds of blood work from guys over the years, you should see my inbox how many people message me. so I have a very good sense of who has a chance to recover and who doesn't. I have a fantastic PCT protocol in my signature so I could easily tell you to go on that and all will be back to normal.. but it would be wishful thinking. I can tell you right now in my extensive experience that when you hop on gear under 22-23 years old that the chances of recovering your HPTA are near 0%. the reason is you are interfering with your pituitary glands to where you are causing permanent damage, while your hormones are going through major changes. now someone who runs 1 or 2 short cycles when they are young is very different, but from what you wrote you pretty much stayed on for many years straight + took other testosterone killing drugs too

either you will need a very long and extensive PCT.. I am talking 3-4 months worth. or you will need TRT for life. anyone who honestly tells you that a 4 week nolva/clomid pct will do anything for you is simply lying and/or badly misinformed. those drugs may TEMPORARILY boost your LH and T levels and hcg will cause a rise in T and estrogen, but I promise you that when you stop taking them you will crash right back down to earth

100%. I agree with this completely. HCG does more harm then good.

You are going to need a VERY good PCT protocol if you have any hopes of your natural testosterone production returning. I recommend the perfect PCT protocol: The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) - Evolutionary.org

3-4 weeks after the PCT get blood work done. If you testosterone levels are severely low, you are most likely going to need TRT.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Agree with Muskate here...perfect pct will give you the best chance at recovery. Saying that, I still believe it is a small chance. More than likely you will be on trt. After the perfect pct, wait 4 weeks and get blood work. Then make your decision on trt.

 

[Icecreampaintjob]

What are you gunna take some research chemicals? Go see a doctor