i will go a bit longer 12,weeks, as this is my second cycle.and i have got it lade out like this.12,weeks,on test,e,300,at300,ew,and t'bol at 50mg'ed for 6,weeks,as a kicker.by that time the test should bee kicking in.and pct for 4,weeks at nova 40/40/20/20/and clomid/100/100/50/50/....thanks lads...