dude, people are trying to help by giving you their experiences - relax
you can expect absolutely nothing from 20 mg of tbol... like someone already said, you're wasting your time and your money....I won't lecture, but most will tell you that an oral-only cycle isn't the best idea.... anyhow, if you decide to go with it anyway, and if you do an average dosage of 40-60mg ED, you can get away with using just some Nolva or Clomid or maybe even just some AIFM... it's a very mild oral, minimally suppressive