cool cheers for the post dude..im sure most people here jus tryin to pass on der knowledge based on there own experience n i appreciate that..im not enterin into this lightly at all which is why im here...wat radar suggested was 3weeks 5mg 3 weeks 10mg 2 weeks 20mg then back 10 then finish off on 5..however he suggested only takin on days im trainin mon-wed-fri...