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Need PCT Help, not a sales pitch pls


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Excerpt: Lots of confusion out there and I keep seeing the Perfect PCT which IMHO is a pitch for products members are selling or getting comped on vitamins. Not interested in N2Guard OR HCGenerate. Sorry for those offended by that. So hereís where Iím at: 45 yo 225 lbs 15% bf In 2-3 weeks Iím finishing 10 weeks of Cyp 400mg/wk, Primo 300mg/wk, Eq 200mg/wk Still on 3iu/day GH for another 2 mos Hereís what Iíve got on hand:

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    Need PCT Help, not a sales pitch pls

    Lots of confusion out there and I keep seeing the Perfect PCT which IMHO is a pitch for products members are selling or getting comped on vitamins. Not interested in N2Guard OR HCGenerate. Sorry for those offended by that.

    So hereís where Iím at:
    45 yo
    225 lbs
    15% bf
    In 2-3 weeks Iím finishing 10 weeks of Cyp 400mg/wk, Primo 300mg/wk, Eq 200mg/wk
    Still on 3iu/day GH for another 2 mos

    Hereís what Iíve got on hand:
    Clomid
    Arimidex
    HCG
    Ostarine
    Cardarine
    MK 677

    Need some input on dosages, timing, etc. Thanks all for all the valuable info in here. Thereís just so much to interpret.



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    Re: Need PCT Help, not a sales pitch pls

    you never use hcg in pct.

    you can use a low dose of Clomid, with a natural T booster (sorry you don't want to hear to use n2generate but you are not doing yourself any favors).. if you don't want to listen then i invite you to run clomid alone and you can see how awful that is. just read all the clomid horror stories, do a google search
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    Re: Need PCT Help, not a sales pitch pls

    you should never use hcg in pct...


    so, when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen... so, i just want you to FULLY understand so you dont think its just someone talking and blowing smoke... this is fact... its easy to understand when you see it written down…






    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.




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    nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
    aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
    DGA ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
    mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
    gw-501516 20 mg day esarms.com

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    Re: Need PCT Help, not a sales pitch pls

    Quote Quote posted by ToastEater View Post
    Lots of confusion out there and I keep seeing the Perfect PCT which IMHO is a pitch for products members are selling or getting comped on vitamins. Not interested in N2Guard OR HCGenerate. Sorry for those offended by that.

    So hereís where Iím at:
    45 yo
    225 lbs
    15% bf
    In 2-3 weeks Iím finishing 10 weeks of Cyp 400mg/wk, Primo 300mg/wk, Eq 200mg/wk
    Still on 3iu/day GH for another 2 mos

    Hereís what Iíve got on hand:
    Clomid
    Arimidex
    HCG
    Ostarine
    Cardarine
    MK 677


    Need some input on dosages, timing, etc. Thanks all for all the valuable info in here. Thereís just so much to interpret.



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    Re: Need PCT Help, not a sales pitch pls

    You should really have your PCT supplies and plan in place before you start a cycle. Definitely don't touch the HCG in PCT. You should have used it in the closing weeks of your cycle (although HCG is not really needed anyhow). Arimidex is fine on cycle, but can't prevent estrogen rebound, which is why aromasin is the AI you should use in PCT. You should really run nolvadex alongside your clomid as well.

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    Re: Need PCT Help, not a sales pitch pls

    See Dylan's post. Your pct is not complete
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    Re: Need PCT Help, not a sales pitch pls

    Quote Quote posted by dylangemelli View Post
    you should never use hcg in pct...


    so, when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen... so, i just want you to FULLY understand so you dont think its just someone talking and blowing smoke... this is fact... its easy to understand when you see it written downÖ






    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as wellÖOrgan ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). Thereís a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.




    clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
    nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
    aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
    DGA ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
    mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
    gw-501516 20 mg day esarms.com
    OP, your pct is fine but Iíd personally use Dylanís suggestion. An herbal test booster is always going to help as long as you are taking one with proven ingredients.


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    Re: Need PCT Help, not a sales pitch pls

    I really appreciate all the help guys.
    Can someone breakdown the last couple weeks using HCG then PCT? I can get what I need or stretch the cycle.


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    Re: Need PCT Help, not a sales pitch pls

    Use hcg the last four weeks of your cycle right up until pct starts. 1000 ius per week is plenty


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    Beauty
    Why PCT protocol u recommend?


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