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Neanderthal/Paleo diets while on gear?

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Does anyone have any information about the efficacy of being on the Paleo/Neanderthal type diets while cycling? Ive done those types of diets with good results but wasnt doing gear or trying to bulk. I think it would be interesting to run a cycle while eating that way.
 
UkKaReD said:
what are neanderthal diets? This is a new one for me.
eating only foods that have not been processed by man. Fresh vegetables, fruits, lean free range meats, chicken, seafood, eggs, nuts. Basically anything that man could have hunted or gathered more than 10000 years ago. No canned foods, sugars, or rice/potatoes because those were planted and grown, not gathered in the wild.
 
I am far from an expert, but it seems fine to me. Strange that you would have such a natural diet and then add in synthetic hormones, but I see why you would do it. I once knew a guy who did some much HGH he began to look like a neanderthal if it helps, lol.
 
10000 years ago? Maybe you should review your history cuz we were eating like that a little over 50-60 years ago :) ha. A good natural path doc/hormone specialist doc buddy of mine put my wife on something similar but it was for food allergies. A food allergy test cost around 300$ if your ins. doesn't cover it, but you eliminate those allergies, eat anything that's not been processed or (baked is fine) man made in a sense (like chips, ice cream, dairy , etc) and you'll be amazed at how much weight you'll lose.
 
The trick for you then is to still keep in PWO carbs. The guy over at lowcarbmuscle.com might be able to give you some advice. Unfortunately there just isn't enough research on how to make it as effective as possible. So basically it comes back to the "listen to your body" and do what works for you. If you go through the adaptation phase, about 2 weeks or so, and feel like shit working out still, then you will know you need to up the carbs a little to even things out. It's your choice on the type of carb to eat....whatever you think the most "paleo" type to get in the right amount. Then the rest of the day stick to the paleo diet and you should have good results.

Other than doing it for yourself the other people you can read are:

Johnny Bowden
Casandra Forsythe and Dave Voleck at UCONN
Anthony Colpo at lowcarbmuscle
There is a low carb runner on youtube that has had great results
Charles Poliquin is a big low carb advocate

superdave said:
Does anyone have any information about the efficacy of being on the Paleo/Neanderthal type diets while cycling? Ive done those types of diets with good results but wasnt doing gear or trying to bulk. I think it would be interesting to run a cycle while eating that way.
 
I don't understand not eating rice or potatoes or bread......all of that is natural isn't it? So what if it's planted.....?? I could possibly deal with potatoes and bread.......but rice? no way.......my friends call me rice boy because I eat rice pretty much everyday.......I have a pressure cooker and I cook korean rice. It's like cycle theory where test is your base.......so it goes with my rice.......it's the base for everything.
 
Foods in the diet
Foods which are included in the diet are ones that can be obtained by using Paleolithic tools and practices, like meat (preferably game, though many followers of the diet eat farmed meat for practical reasons), fish, and gathered or foraged fruits, leaves, and roots of plants, mushrooms, nuts, eggs, and honey.

Some practitioners allow the use of oils derived from those foods which can be obtained and produced through Paleolithic means and are edible in their natural, uncooked state. Examples could include sesame oil, olive oil, and safflower oil, but not oils derived from beans (for example, peanut oil) or grains (for example, corn oil). Others avoid the use of any oil, as it is a processed food.

The non-animal foods available in the diet are the same as those available in raw veganism. However, there are two fundamental differences between raw veganism and the Paleolithic diet: Firstly, practitioners consume meat and other animal products (in fact usually more is consumed than on a standard modern diet, in some cases substantially more). Secondly, any and all food may be cooked if desired.


[edit] Foods not in the diet
Vegetable foods which are not edible raw and unprocessed are excluded from the diet. The foods falling into this category are mainly grains (wheat, corn, rice, etc.), starchy vegetables (i.e., beans, and potatoes), certain fruits and nuts (e.g. cashews), and refined sugars. Alcoholic beverages are generally excluded because fermentation is also a form of processing, although some Paleolithic eaters allow certain exceptions (i.e., wine, since fermented (over-ripe) fruit can be found and consumed in small quantities with little ill effect). Dairy products are excluded despite being edible raw, since they cannot be found or consumed easily in nature, at least in any considerable quantity, and are consequently a post-agricultural food.
 
Maybe I am off track, but are you talking about organic foods? If so I wouldn't see a problem there. You definitely wouldn't be getting all the pesticides and stuff like that. I am sure there is great debate on whether there is actually any health benefits over eating organic or regular stuff from the store but it certainly wouldn't hurt you.
 
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