The Myth of Deca Durabolin and Finasteride (VERY IMPORTANT)

[kbrkbr]

I wish you guys would stop referring to finasteride as "fina." Fina = tren. NOT FUCKING FINASTERIDE.

 

[matty420]

i just woke up and i briefly read through these posts.. the hairloss issue is a myth? i completely disagree. i'm mid cycle right now, and i'm shedding again.. just like i do 4 weeks into every cycle, and will be for six weeks after the cycle.

 

[Magick69]

This seems to me like this guy is simply trying to prove his point by exagerating the claims about this "famous MD".
"one of the most important MD expert in the US about hairloss (they are 3 and all are very good and expreinced in this field with bodybuilders)." - yeah sure!

He very clearly knows nothing of steroids. He has simply bitten off a big chunk of the usual media hype about steroids and bunched them all together. As previously mentioned by many others, your supposed famous MD is making very generic comments that actually only relate to testosterone. In fact, he even stated as much - It is a myth. If you are going to be taking steroids, there will be an increase in the serum level of testosterone.
It would be wise to decrease the DHT and that would be fairly simple. " - to quote him - "if you are going to be taking STEROIDS"!! - So all steroids are the same????? He either knows nothing about gear, or has overlooked what you actually asked him about - that being Nandrolone. I suspect he is the usual ignorant doc type that simply believe all gear is the same.

Nandrolone converts to DHN, and if left alone - i.e. not used with finasteride, DHN will not harm your hair line. When taken with Finasteride, it cannot convert to DHN and so could cause hair loss as DHN is much safer than deca.
To come on here and suggest that what your "famous MD" has told you is gospel because he works with many bodybuilders blah blah blah... when you are clearly making up those facts about him should see you thrown off here imo. If he was a famous MD and specialised in working with bodybuilders as you keep suggesting, then he would have a much better knowledge - or at least some knowledge - of the DIFFERENT effects DIFFERENT steroids can have on the hair line.
Now I for one know very little about hair loss, but it is something that massively concerns me. I would be seriously pi**ed if I had read your thread and took your word on it and used deca with fina only to see my hair falling out.
Serioulsy, if your going to quote some one else, at least do it with an objective view point and not exagerate/make up claims about the guy to support his theories. i.e:
"2) not mean to be rude but between a very very very well known dermatologist which has worked with many bodybuilders with this dilemmas and problems, i believe in the first option and for me the rest are speculations."

"It is an MD working also with bodybuilders in restoring their hairs or save them who agrees with another not so famous but expressing the same opinion"
"it is not my doctor is a famous MD which works also with bodybuilders i trust his word and not yours (Buddha what's your qualification mate?)"

And comments like this serioulsy p**s me off:
"in the meantime if soemeone consider the hair important please do not stop any medication (fina) that ur Doc gave u while on any steroid than the choice is urs" - so your telling people to use fina with any gear regardless of the thousands of posts from people who have experienced adverse effects over the years of doing exactly that, not to mention all of the scientific/medical evidence to support the reasons why this would happen. good idea!

HAHA! never laughed so much.......i think is becoming ridiculous why do i need to prove 'my point' ??? What do i earn? Mate do u think they pay me for you becoming bald????



I said what I know and i thought doing that i would help lots of people not losing their hair if they decide to try nandrolone...then as i said millon of times i give the information then you can use or not.....

about the loss of libido that is another issue which sincerely i need to try to find out; but for people like me that value having hair and gain from nandrolone a little loss of libido for 8-9 weks or whatever (i read a good thread here how to avoid loss of libido using only deca) is a price to pay.

They told me that i would have lost my libido using finasteride and actually i am using since 1992 and no effects at all actually i am always horny that is my problems

i am not an expert in steroids but i know few things about supplements; when i try NPP and finasteride i will use tribex gold of biotest 4-6 a days 5 days on 2 off (very expensive company but every time i tested their products they worked). One guy which was using high dose of anavar was using tribex and did not experience any problem in libido

now knowing the types of people in this thread please do not start about tribulus read first this thread
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php? p=6954776#post6954776

actually i come clean i need to confess i have been paid by an organization that wants you becoming all bald from the combo nandrolone-finasteride; they pay a % for each hair you will lose

 

[Magick69]

i just woke up and i briefly read through these posts.. the hairloss issue is a myth? i completely disagree. i'm mid cycle right now, and i'm shedding again.. just like i do 4 weeks into every cycle, and will be for six weeks after the cycle.

so you are using finasteride and nandrolone only? When did you start finasteride ? and now much nandrolone you are using?

 

[ole farte']

Interesting thread........I used finasteride for 8yrs or more and found that last year i was shedding alot. switched to dutasteride 2 months ago the shedding stopped. 12 days ago i started 500mg wk test-e and 250deca . i will run the test 10wk, deca 8. and i will be watching for excessive shedding. i'm 53, use minox and this is my first cycle.

 

[Magick69]

Interesting thread........I used finasteride for 8yrs or more and found that last year i was shedding alot. switched to dutasteride 2 months ago the shedding stopped. 12 days ago i started 500mg wk test-e and 250deca . i will run the test 10wk, deca 8. and i will be watching for excessive shedding. i'm 53, use minox and this is my first cycle.

may advice you for your safety to use this combo

minox-azelaic acid

spironolactone 5 %

and to continue duta

 

[stressman13]

I'v heard doing deca and fina at the same time distroy the libido even with test boosters it takes months to come back. here is a link where u can buy spiro in the U.S. http://www.minoxidil.com/ if you use spiro and minoxidil u have to time it right if they are mixed it smells like rotten eggs. from what i've read u can drop azelic acid flakes into a bottle of minoxidil and make what they sell at site for $30 they sell the flakes at www.fishersci.com. i usually buy 4 bottes of minoxidil 5% at costco for $20 then drop 2 or 3ml of flakes in, mix and let it sit for 24 hours before use. hope this helps save some $$$.

How important is the azelick acid? Ive been using topical minoxodil alone. Do I Really need the acid?

 

[Magick69]

How important is the azelick acid? Ive been using topical minoxodil alone. Do I Really need the acid?

It is common practice prescribe azelaic acid and minoxidil together all dermatologists doing so and this is the reason (from my first post)

I think that the best single product for preventing and reversing MPB is 5% minoxidil / 5% azelaic acid promotes hair growth and prevents the synthesis of DHT in the scalp.

 

[Magick69]

had a bit of time did few further research and i have found this post on the hair loss help forums (one of the largest one)


Friday April 05, 2002 3:03 PM


4inguy, Deca will not make u lose any hair, and I know this for experience. I went through a deca cycle about 6 months ago while on propecia. When I started with deca I had already gained about 20 pounds from some non steroidal pills that I took called cyproheptadine. I didn't gain one pound with deca and I always thought this was because I had already put a lot of weight on and I was on a plateu, but soul said that propecia would hinder ur gains??? Sould where did you read that? I always heard it wasnt a good idea take both because of ur hair but not because it would hinder ur gains. By the way d-bol is not mild on the hair at all! Go into a dbol cycle and you'll be bald in 1 month... not really but, I wouldnt do it seriously.
4inguy... EliteFitness.com<<< A site about everything related to steroids, go there, they have a message board. I recommend you use their search engine to search for previous posts about this matter cause this is definitely not the nicest site on the internet. They will either not answer you or call you a newbie. By the way they will try to brain wash you and make u go into cycle with megadoses of test plus deca plus d-bol plus everything else, you'll be dealing with genetic freaks in there... not good for ur health and most important your hair...
Good luck bro.

obviously the focus here is not if propecia hindered the deca gains but the use of propecia with deca that did not make him to lose his hair

by the way the finasteride myth which hindered gains is a myth i am using it now and start my cycle of anavar at 80-81 kg now i am 85,5 and 3 % of fat .
down

 

[hereforadvice]

hi folks

i have mpb hair recession and thinning


i use anywhere from 250 to 750 test and take 2,5mg finasteride twice a day


is this a good strategt? is minoxidil really relevant?


please help me i dont want to be bald