maintaining hpta

[Diver]

fellaaaaaaasss....

i'd like hear more about hpta. this is something i don't fully understand yet it seems to be the single most important key in maintaining physical and mental health during and post cycle, as well as retaining gains post cycle.

i understand the basic concept that some androgens have an effect on your htpa, which cause a downregulation of your body's own natural test levels, cause the boys to shrivel, etc.. and it's been my experience during my current cycle that the use of clomid eod counteracts this effect.

i guess my questions are, is your htpa effected even with the use of clomid? can you permanently damage your hpta to where you need hormone therapy the rest of your life? what methods are used to maintain the hpta and avoid downregulation? is this done simply by cycleing anabolics, bridging, then androgenics?

fuck i hate typing.

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[e2]

Personally i like typing it's so much faster than writing by hand, it takes me forever to write something.

Ok, now please bear with me if i make this too simple i'm sorry. Your boyd always wants to maintain homeostasis right??? Ok, so suddenly you pop a ton of test in you body, your body realizes this and says holy shit, WTF is going on???? Something must be wrong, we need to stop producing testosterone. So your body stops secreting LH from your anterior pituitary gland which in turn prevents your testes from producing Testosterone as they require LH and nutrients to produce T. SO boom your natual test production now goes down to zero, your balls shrink and you've put yourself in a bad position.

So what to do about this??? CLomid!! The little left prince of steroid use if you will, as we all know Test is King!! Now the clomid directly affects your pituitary and your testes, causing the pituitary to secrete LH and the testes to head back into action, it gets the whole process going again, where as hcg just mimics LH and does many other bad things, but i won't get into that.

I have never heard of anyone ever damaging their hpta with prolonged clomid use, hell i've been on it for years now, basically non stop at 50mg eod, even when i'm off i take it, ahemmm for other reasons <wink>!!

The best way to maintaing your hpta is to use clomid, hands down. Cyclcing will work as well, but if you don't ever use clomid then you're sitting around waiting for your testes to start working again, and it can take time depending on your doses and how long you've been on. You can even end up with a period when your injected test has dissipated and your testes still haven't come back online leaving you with almost no test in your body, as you can imagine very very bad!!!

Hope i helped



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[Diver]

hah e2 the clomid porn star...

so dude if you were a dumbass and,say, went on a year long cycle with no clomid, just put up with the little raisins, could your hpta be permanently damaged then? if not underwhat circumstances would warrant someone needing lifelong hormone therapy??

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[This message has been edited by Diver (edited October 25, 2000).]

 

[MONSTROSITY]

Divers,
it's very hard to say whether there would be perminent damage or not. People's bodies react differently. But, it is very possible that perminent damage could be done if one was to stay on all year long without the help of clomid............

 

[e2]

If you supress your HPTA for too long then yes it can shut down permanently!! Now i do know a few guys who have done this and i know a guy who reads this board actually, who needs constant test injections because his body doesn't produce it anymore. Nice eh??



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