lost my appitite

[gums]

hello all, I have juast started a new cycle of test 400 and decca only 2 mls a week, all is going really well, I have gone from 54 kilo to 69 kilo, first 4 weeks I have eaten everything I can to up my cals and my protein , been on serious mass 1640 cals a shake and the added creatine with cyclone two shakes of each a day , my diet is good and I have slowed down on my cardio, week 5 and my hunger has almost gone I am back, to struggling to eat 4 times a day , which is what I was doing while training before. I am a boxing coach and needed to bulk up for personal reasons, I have read so much on other sites and half of it contradicts itself, I am a healthy person in general and the last time I did this cycle was 2006 just to get to 60 kilo for a comp I now want to get to 80 kilo if poss but my hunger has gone, any tips, please thanks all for taking time to read ,

 

[hurricane]

ghrp-6 or b-12

 

[stevesmi]

so you are running steroids at 118 pounds?

how tall are you? how old are you?

 

[redheat7]

Depending on shakes?


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[zazen5]

I remember in 1991 at us Seattle when I was using clenbuterol plus, bodyweight 250, prepping 500 lbs on deadlifts for5 reps. I was eating around 20 egg whites plus 8 potato's a day plus mega mass's 2000 shakes. Seriously nauseated all the time.

My suggestions? I'm not writing anything I don't do myself. Drink black tea and play chess. Especially regular chess stops nausea. I often study chess during rest intervals between lifts. Don't laugh til u try it. Try reading a chess book at meals u can eat more. Gary Kasparov would always have a big meal before chess championships. Chess is much more like heavy lifting than most people realize. Ever notice that Russians often excel at chess and weights?

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[stevesmi]

Depending on shakes?


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I was gonna get to that but first this guy was 118 and using steroids.. that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

as far as shakes that's another big no no for those who are trying to bulk up I agree. what happens when you have a shake? it murders your appetite and its not muscle building food. considering 99.9% of whey protein out there is crap anyway

 

[zazen5]

Not sure if I agree with the idea shakes r not food. How u gonna eat all those calories. EdCoan once said its easier to drink calories than eat them. I like lifting but I give up on the eating all the time. How is me force feeding gonna drive more protein into the cell unless I'm on roids? Not gonna happen. Then there is the wonderful myostatin also hanging around. Eating lots not gonna block myostatin. So I eat when I'm hungry. When I was 19 at the us Seattle IMA weight room I would rep 500 on deadlifts for sets of 5, and eat 20 egg whites, about 8 potatoes and that Joe weider mega mass 2000 shakes. Nauseated all the time. I don't see the point when all that eating doesn't necessarily equate with heavier lifts, not worth wasting time to get fat for nothing unless imrepping heavy weights on all lifts

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[gums]

I am eating sensibly as I usualy do but my craving for food has gone I have stopped the shakes down to one a day, I was 54 kilo before I had my 2ml jab and have had 2ml 1=decca 1=test 400, and in 5 weeks gained 16 kilo but seem to have come to a stop as my food intake is back to normal don't feel ill or un relaxed nausea I work out everyday as I am a pt boxing coach just need to bulk and gain, but struggling, I am eating duck eggs about six a day and up to 4 chicken eggs, chess is a good game and I do read anatomy with most my meals, I am a novice as I don't normally take this root to gain, I cant find anything to sugest that test stops the hunger, cheers guys for your input much appreciated. any help is well taken in and used wisely cheers

 

[ALIN]

ghrp-6 or b-12

Good idea. Either or even both can help. GHRP-6 will make you want to eat everything in site.

 

[stevesmi]

Not sure if I agree with the idea shakes r not food. How u gonna eat all those calories. EdCoan once said its easier to drink calories than eat them. I like lifting but I give up on the eating all the time. How is me force feeding gonna drive more protein into the cell unless I'm on roids? Not gonna happen. Then there is the wonderful myostatin also hanging around. Eating lots not gonna block myostatin. So I eat when I'm hungry. When I was 19 at the us Seattle IMA weight room I would rep 500 on deadlifts for sets of 5, and eat 20 egg whites, about 8 potatoes and that Joe weider mega mass 2000 shakes. Nauseated all the time. I don't see the point when all that eating doesn't necessarily equate with heavier lifts, not worth wasting time to get fat for nothing unless imrepping heavy weights on all lifts

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this is a roid forum, you do realize that right?

the rest of your post is debateable stuff, the it worked for me so it must work for everyone else bro science stuff. not everyone has your genetics, and if you claim you deadlifted 500 pounds just off shakes then that is great.. but again it won't work for everyone. considering as I said earlier in the thread 99.9% of shakes out there are made from filler powders, essentially you are eating ground up rotten cheese with soy and other fillers

this kid is 118 pounds and probably 14 years old, so telling him to eat shakes all day isn't gonna result in him deadlifting 500 pounds.. he probably can't even deadlift 150 yet.. he needs to learn the ABC's to diet and nutrition FIRST before getting fancy .. trust me I am a specialist and taking skinny guys and turning them into powerlifters, i'm a HS weightlifting coach! that's all we do