Apart from Wulfgar's obvious sense of humour, he is a bit of an alchemist. I think the key to long term use/abuse, take it anyway you want, is to switch around compounds regularly as well as overall dosage, anabolics/androgenics etc. For me its about maintaining condition. This may result is some weight loss at times as you play around with the "look" of the body, strength & endurance etc. I'm at the "older" end of the BBing scale, so I can do this without too much effect on my family responsibilities & relationships. You do need to get bloods checked & be very aware of how your body is reacting to your supplement usage.