Long Ester Much Better Than Short Ester

[no1_brawler]

After reading about esters and half-lifes of steroids i've realised that long esters are much more effective mg per mg. Let me explain by using Testosteron Propionate and Testosterone Enanthate as examples:

Enanthate has a half-life of 10.5 days. Prop has a half-life of 4.5 days. For this example, lets say there were 2 people who wanted to use Testosterone Enanthate or Propionate for 63 days. Each person had 7500mg of each compound and each person would inject their compound every half-life.

Prop:
1st Injection: 500mg
2nd Injection: 250mg left + 500mg = 750mg
3rd Injection: 375mg left + 500mg = 875mg
4th Injection: 438mg left + 500mg = 938mg
5th Injection: 469mg left + 500mg = 969mg
6th Injection: 485mg left + 500mg = 985mg
7th Injection: 493mg left + 500mg = 993mg
8th Injection: 496mg left + 500mg = 996mg
9th Injection: 498mg left + 500mg = 998mg
10th Injection: 499mg left + 500mg = 999mg
11th Injection: 500mg left + 500mg = 1000mg
12th Injection: 500mg left + 500mg = 1000mg
13th Injection: 500mg left + 500mg = 1000mg
14th Injection: 500mg left + 500mg = 1000mg
15th Injection: 500mg left + 500mg = 1000mg

As you can see these 15 injections took 14 half-lifes which equal 63 days (4.5 days x 14 half-lifes).
The maximum level of testosterone reached in the 63 days is 1000mg.

Enanthate:
1st Injection: 1250mg
2nd Injection: 625mg + 1250mg = 1875mg
3rd Injection: 938mg + 1250mg = 2188mg
4th Injection: 1094mg + 1250mg = 2344mg
5th Injection: 1172 + 1250mg = 2422mg
6th Injection: 1211 + 1250mg = 2461mg
7th Injection: 1230mg + 1250mg = 2480mg

As you see these only took 7 injections which took 6 half-lifes which also equal 63 days(10.5 days x 6 half-lifes). The maximum level of testosterone reached in the 63 days is 2480mg.

In conclusion, you can see that after running the same amount of Testosterone (7500mg) for the same amount of time(63 days), the enanthate ester built up a Testosterone level of 2480mg while the prop only reached 1000mg. This shows why long esters are much more effectice per mg.

No_Brawler

 

[Mac173]

Interesting

 

[big greg 82]

ditto.

 

[no1_brawler]

So does every1 agree with this? And if so, why is any1 taking short esters?

 

[solidspine]

Are Tall girls better than Short girls, are brunettes pretty than blonds,


It is personal preference


Yes your technical analysis may prove long esters are more effective mg per mg but as a body builder,

If I want to use a gram of suspension I will, or a gram of Sust -250, and that will give me enough gear for the week

However I use Test E exclusively because of what you said,

Just though I would be argumentive first thing in the morning.

Good report

 

[Mac173]

Water retention and clearence times are a big issue why many choose short over long esters.

 

[big greg 82]

yes def water retention and clearance of sides is key.

 

[Vascular Freak]

with long esters test levels will build over the course of a cycle...test levels will rise much higher but so will estrogen...which results in increased water, fat storage especially in the stubborn areas...this can be controlled with AI's but a much higher amount is needed. for bulk cycles where a little fat gain is not a problem long ester test is great...but for cutting purposes prop will give good strength increases and preserve muscle without the bloat....plus most gear that people cut with are injected ed to eod so prop fits that bill as well.

i get great results with both....but for some reason prop without hardly any AI's give me better results than test e or c where higher doses of AI's are needed.

 

[no1_brawler]

Seeing that everyone agree's, wouldn't that mean that its not so important how much Test you take per week but more importantly how much test you take per half-life? A beginner taking 750mg of prop would actually have less test than another guy whos taking 500mg of enanthate per week.

 

[Vascular Freak]

Seeing that everyone agree's, wouldn't that mean that its not so important how much Test you take per week but more importantly how much test you take per half-life? A beginner taking 750mg of prop would actually have less test than another guy whos taking 500mg of enanthate per week.

most likely either case your not gonna experince many sides....but if you did it would be because of estrogen being out of whack.