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A Journey: Dead Solid, Perfect - *Bunny* Log

QT :qt: Thaks for dropping in :) :heart:
Roonytunes said:
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I had accupuncture treatment done twice a week for well over a year. It was covered by insurance after a car accident and I had back issues. I can't say it really, truly helped (building muscle & strengthening my back is what REALLY made the aches go away) but it was strangely peaceful & relaxing. And Doc Pin's diagnosis over time was always interesting too. If you have any questions, feel free to ask away.
:rose: *RT* :rose: - :wavey: I absolutely agree with what you said & thank you for the ‘ask Roony anything card’ .. saved for later. :heart: (BTW I have on my “A” pockets & thought about you :D Good indicator that things aren’t that bad when the jeans still fit eh? )

Anywho, my insurance company denied my procedure to harvest stem cells for a bone marrow transplant lol. I think I would go on a :digger: spree if they covered this ... :evil: especially since I do not have a specific ‘medical issue’ recognizable to my current MDs etc, to throw a referral or help me out in anyway. I would get rxn’d some pretty heavy anti’s & told to go home, sleep it off and stop with the diet & training I do. :rolleyes: :D So, whaddya know, lucky me, lol the doc is NOT 'in network' and he's the only one I trust sticking pins in me, not to forget contorting me to crack away, so I guess I’m just going to have to take the hit since it’s something I always wanted to try.

I might as well comment on my experience …

:D Buns First Poke-age :D
A little background on my Doc Pins … He & his wife are both Chiropractic Physicians and Certified Acupuncturists, have their own practice at 2 locations + at the ‘spa’ I go to + one other location. Doc Pins is a 2nd generation Chiropractor and has worked along side Chiropractic, Acupuncture,
& Traditional Chinese Medicine specialist since 1990. He received a BS in Biology and his Premed from the U of I, also a BS in Human Biology and Doctorate of Chiropractic. Doc Pins is also certified in Acupuncture/Meridian Therapy & Active Release Techniques.

GOAL: TO help patients achieve optimal health through a holistic & natural approach to health care, by using chiropractic, acupuncture, soft tissue techniques, applied kinesiology & nutrition (I re-worded / copied this from his bio on a few different sides :D *credit given*)

I’d like to provide more insight as to what Acu IS, but I don’t have the time just yet. This is a very basic description about acupuncture: “it is a drug free treatment that consists of the gentle insertion of thin sterile needles in specific points on the body. Each point is related to an organ system and its path of energy flow called a "meridian". Acupuncturists use a system of diagnosis to determine specific acupuncture points that will help strengthen and balance your body's energy.”
^^ This system of diagnosis I relate to a massage when the therapist does a “once over” & gets a feel for what they are working with :D Forgive me as I am NOT schooled in the art of the Acu or how to explain the terms (yet) but I’ll do my best to document my experience….

My 1st visit with Doc Pins was post Deep Tissue massage so I was loose & ready to be cracked. :D It was more to feel him out & to get adjusted (chiro work, not Acu related) . Doc Pins used this ‘once over’ to tell me my liver & adrenal glands were not ‘holding strong’ … then cracked me like I’ve never been cracked before…. :FRlol: :D You’re probably wondering wtf am I talking about. Well, try to picture this, lying on my back and he took my right arm & raised it as a lever. There were going to be certain points on the body he would apply pressure to and told me to “hold strong” or NOT let him force my arm down. These points would tell him what organ/area/energy path/etc was ‘off’ … Doc Pins did this my 1st visit to access me, then again my 2nd visit to figure out what pattern he would use to treat me (pattern = where the needles would be placed on my body to help with his conclusions from the “once over”).

The 2nd go round, the Adrenals were still showing up, but the liver was not. SO, I think he opted to go that route to treat those, along with stress, tension, etc, and not digestive tract related and decided on a ‘10 pin pattern’ (I think I remember 2 in each leg & 3 in each hand/wrist, oh & one in the top of my head on my ‘relaxation point’ .. lol didn’t feel that one at all, lucky for him :evil: ) ..

I was fully clothed & pants rolled up for leg puncts. I think my sleeve knocked one of the pins out of my wrist but he fixed that when he popped in during my 15 minutes of chilling. During this 15 minutes, I need to suggest better music b/c I was not too relaxed, it annoyed me, but tried to be at ease. :) I would have rather lay there in silence lol. So with the needles in, light dim, and these mini electrodes hooked up to the top of the needled to stimulate the ‘power points’ … I chilled. :lmao: That was kinda bizarre. Imagine your muscle twitching, it feels like a tapping… that is what these electrodes did to the points they were attached to (hands & feet, NOT head lol) to produce an electrical current for stimulation. :alien:

“Moxa, which is a herb (mugwort), can also be placed on the needles and burned, to cause heat stimulation, or moxa can be used on its own on the acupoints.” <-- This is no longer done there b/c it smells like Pot & that is bad for business .:)
Last thing is the feet taping … while I was being hooked up (I felt like I was get jumped started or something) in order to stimulate two pressure points on the side of each foot, instead of using needles, he taped my feet, right around the middle, around the arch. I have to leave it on for three days. It’s waterproof; I can workout with it, etc. Doesn’t feel too weird but last night I wanted to rip it off.

Notes: If I were toxic, I could have an adverse reaction to the needles; imagine your body cleansing itself, I could get sick, feel crappy, I relate it to the way your body tried to detox after a lymph specific massage etc. Some people feel instantly re-charged/energized/juvenated, I didn’t have the frown on my face after I was done but did not experience anything miraculous either. As posted in my log today, I cannot drink and/or eat coffee, chocolate, etc (i.e no caffeine) and avoid raw veggies, nuts, or any other ‘rough’ foods for about a week. I’m going to hold out until my next appointment on Wednesday, August 16 at 7:15 p.m. The premise is to avoid things that would go down ‘rough’ … that did include apples but he laughed & said if that was the worst I was eating then to chew them really good. I suppose I can have applesauce but not really a big fan of that. I can have steamed or soft veggies and swap out PB for hard walnuts/almonds. (he didn’t suggest that, I did :D)

Lastly, he “prescribed” a supp (that sounds funny) for me to take to help with the adrenal function. To convince me, he put on tab on my tongue & did his little test again with my arm. This time, I was able to ‘hold strong’ against his force, whereas before my arm would go down like a knife in warm butter .. (Not really, but you get the idea, … I hope)

NOW, I should NOT have to tell you it is a bad idea to run out & buy this b/c you think it will help you… get yourself checked out by some real docs ( or 4) & when everything looks kosher to them, yet you still have issues, THEN possibly look to alternative ways to help with the situation. As far a the Chiro & Acu go, fair game if you can afford it, it would be great to hear other opinions on this stuff.


That took longer than I thought.

:D Thank you for reading my experience
 
:)

Yah, you're right... i didn't read it yet. I will later and post my cirtique here... edited cuz I'm :supercool

Here I go :)

Dark Red

*Bunny* said:
:D Buns First Poke-age :D
A little background on my Doc Pins … He & his wife are both Chiropractic Physicians and Certified Acupuncturists, have their own practice at 2 locations + at the ‘spa’ I go to + one other location. Doc Pins is a 2nd generation Chiropractor and has worked along side Chiropractic, Acupuncture,
& Traditional Chinese Medicine specialist since 1990. He received a BS in Biology and his Premed from the U of I, also a BS in Human Biology and Doctorate of Chiropractic. Doc Pins is also certified in Acupuncture/Meridian Therapy & Active Release Techniques.

GOAL: TO help patients achieve optimal health through a holistic & natural approach to health care, by using chiropractic, acupuncture, soft tissue techniques, applied kinesiology & nutrition (I re-worded / copied this from his bio on a few different sides :D *credit given*)
Any place out there that need "guinea" (lol..pun NOT intended!) pigs?? :D

My 1st visit with Doc Pins was post Deep Tissue massage so I was loose & ready to be cracked. :D It was more to feel him out & to get adjusted (chiro work, not Acu related) . Doc Pins used this ‘once over’ to tell me my liver & adrenal glands were not ‘holding strong’ … then cracked me like I’ve never been cracked before…. :FRlol: :D You’re probably wondering wtf am I talking about. Well, try to picture this, lying on my back and he took my right arm & raised it as a lever. There were going to be certain points on the body he would apply pressure to and told me to “hold strong” or NOT let him force my arm down. These points would tell him what organ/area/energy path/etc was ‘off’ … Doc Pins did this my 1st visit to access me, then again my 2nd visit to figure out what pattern he would use to treat me (pattern = where the needles would be placed on my body to help with his conclusions from the “once over”).

YES!!! You got CRACKED!! :) Feels Gooooooouuuuuuuuud doesn't it?! :evil:

The 2nd go round, the Adrenals were still showing up, but the liver was not. SO, I think he opted to go that route to treat those, along with stress, tension, etc, and not digestive tract related and decided on a ‘10 pin pattern’ (I think I remember 2 in each leg & 3 in each hand/wrist, oh & one in the top of my head on my ‘relaxation point’ .. lol didn’t feel that one at all, lucky for him :evil: ) ..


That's so interesting!! What'd it feel like? ... could u feel the pins "wobbling" or anything?

"Hi i'm here for the 1,000 pattern tune-up ... I'm a mybodyisafrigginmess.org" .. that's what'd I'd say. lol


I was fully clothed & pants (sure :p ... lol, you state the obvious, so I'm gunna bust ur chops :verygood: ) rolled up for leg puncts. I think my sleeve knocked one of the pins out of my wrist but he fixed that when he popped in during my 15 minutes of chilling. During this 15 minutes, I need to suggest better music b/c I was not too relaxed, it annoyed me, but tried to be at ease. :) I would have rather lay there in silence lol. So with the needles in, light dim, and these mini electrodes hooked up to the top of the needled to stimulate the ‘power points’ … I chilled. :lmao: That was kinda bizarre. Imagine your muscle twitching, it feels like a tapping… that is what these electrodes did to the points they were attached to (hands & feet, NOT head lol) to produce an electrical current for stimulation. :alien:

Better music... for sure. Like the nice tropical, soothing, type they play during massages :) Ohhh ok, that's what it feels like! Sounds fun... really.

“Moxa, which is a herb (mugwort), can also be placed on the needles and burned, to cause heat stimulation, or moxa can be used on its own on the acupoints.” <-- This is no longer done there b/c it smells like Pot & that is bad for business .:)
Last thing is the feet taping … while I was being hooked up (I felt like I was get jumped started or something) in order to stimulate two pressure points on the side of each foot, instead of using needles, he taped my feet, right around the middle, around the arch. I have to leave it on for three days. It’s waterproof; I can workout with it, etc. Doesn’t feel too weird but last night I wanted to rip it off.

hehehe.. Pot?... bad for business?! ... Since when!? :verygood: JKJKJKJKJK... interesting.

Notes: If I were toxic, I could have an adverse reaction to the needles; imagine your body cleansing itself, I could get sick, feel crappy, I relate it to the way your body tried to detox after a lymph specific massage etc. Some people feel instantly re-charged/energized/juvenated, I didn’t have the frown on my face after I was done but did not experience anything miraculous either. As posted in my log today, I cannot drink and/or eat coffee, chocolate, etc (i.e no caffeine) and avoid raw veggies, nuts, or any other ‘rough’ foods for about a week. I’m going to hold out until my next appointment on Wednesday, August 16 at 7:15 p.m. The premise is to avoid things that would go down ‘rough’ … that did include apples but he laughed & said if that was the worst I was eating then to chew them really good. I suppose I can have applesauce but not really a big fan of that. I can have steamed or soft veggies and swap out PB for hard walnuts/almonds. (he didn’t suggest that, I did :D)

What's the reason to stop eating these items? If it "corrects" something will you continue leaving these items out of your daily diet?

:D Thank you for reading my experience
Thank YOU for sharing :rose: * 8 :heart:
 
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Interesting stuff, there Bunny! So you really aren't experiencing any huge stress relief or anything? People do this for their animals too. They go from barely being able to walk to - running in the yard. Pretty cool stuff!

:lmao: at the pot and bad business! lol
 
scorpiogirl said:
Interesting stuff, there Bunny! So you really aren't experiencing any huge stress relief or anything? People do this for their animals too. They go from barely being able to walk to - running in the yard. Pretty cool stuff!

:lmao: at the pot and bad business! lol
Thank you SG. Anything HUGE & noticeable like WOW, Nope. Little things here & there yes, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't HOPE for a *BAM* you're healed type reaction (I DO know better than that so I'm not really excited or disappointed ya know? :whatever: ) Since he is an acutal doctor as well, I asked what he suggested for treatment. So we're going to try once a week treatment for the next 4 weeks, then maintenance if everything goes well.

I read about the animal Acu. On the same note peole think we are crazy for getting our dog treated for cancer. He had lymphoma (go figure lol) & we got him chemo .. the thousand dollar $dog$ ... lived about 6 more healthy years after that, about 14 or 15 :) I just re-read what you wrote :FRlol: I thought you were talking about humans when you said "They go from barely being able to walk to - running in the yard. Pretty cool stuff!" :lmao: and almost choked on my tea ... I'm drinking "Sweet Dreams" tea right now, help relax me ... :D Since it takes 3 packets at once to do much of anything ;)

The girl that does my deep tissue work was a guinea pig for a guy who needed to do a 58 pin pattern on her back ... I'm like Didn't ya take a picture?!?!?!? That woulda been pretty wicked IMO...
 
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Gone for not even two days and your new log takes me a half hour to get caught up on! LOL. my morning newspaper....

Well I was hoping to hear better results from your visit, but maybe after a couple more visits

I hope the rest of the day goes well, JUST DO IT :heart:
 
Hey Buns thanks for sharing I can add a few things...
on the Moxubust its called -Moxibustion therapy.
If you ever feel like buying an awesome massage bed.. NO JOKE
google Migun or Migun table.
I did the table for a month straight last year.
It combines, massage, accupressure, jade rollers, and moxibustion all in one.
I want one but the dang thing is WAYYYYYY expensive.
It hurts the first time especially on the sacrum because the sacrum has to build up the bone density in that area.. It feels bruised and sore after the first week or so. Well I had this knot in my rhomboid (between the spine and shoulder blade) that noone has EVER been able to get out. Well after 3 weeks one day it just gave andI was like what the HECK was that?!?! Like I had been so accustom to that knot that I had no idea what it felt like to not have it! I went home and slept like a baby.

As far as accupuncture.... Accupressure is the same thing minus the needles. A certified therapist specifically trained in Shiatsu will know the meridians and chakras of the body. I have some training in this... but I prefer western massage (more medical and sports related). Though I find Eastern alternatives interesting. I would love to go to Taiwan one summer for 2 weeks and learn Thai massage.
There are many different alternative methods out there and I actually have a typed up paper I created for school that talks about Ayurvedic sciences if anyone wants a copy. I find the Hindu based stuff just as fascinating. Many European Ayruvedic schools were closed because people were flocking to alternative therapies and of course the 'western thought' was we need to close these fast or else we're going to be going out of business. So.... a bunch of really good schools one even being in Hungary, were closed even though they were getting results that medicine was not achieving.

O.k. I only wrote all that 'cuz I knew you would be interested not sure baout your other readers' ;)
 
treilin said:
Hey Buns thanks for sharing I can add a few things...
on the Moxubust its called -Moxibustion therapy.
If you ever feel like buying an awesome massage bed.. NO JOKE
google Migun or Migun table.
I did the table for a month straight last year.
It combines, massage, accupressure, jade rollers, and moxibustion all in one.
I want one but the dang thing is WAYYYYYY expensive.
It hurts the first time especially on the sacrum because the sacrum has to build up the bone density in that area.. It feels bruised and sore after the first week or so. Well I had this knot in my rhomboid (between the spine and shoulder blade) that noone has EVER been able to get out. Well after 3 weeks one day it just gave andI was like what the HECK was that?!?! Like I had been so accustom to that knot that I had no idea what it felt like to not have it! I went home and slept like a baby.

As far as accupuncture.... Accupressure is the same thing minus the needles. A certified therapist specifically trained in Shiatsu will know the meridians and chakras of the body. I have some training in this... but I prefer western massage (more medical and sports related). Though I find Eastern alternatives interesting. I would love to go to Taiwan one summer for 2 weeks and learn Thai massage.
There are many different alternative methods out there and I actually have a typed up paper I created for school that talks about Ayurvedic sciences if anyone wants a copy. I find the Hindu based stuff just as fascinating. Many European Ayruvedic schools were closed because people were flocking to alternative therapies and of course the 'western thought' was we need to close these fast or else we're going to be going out of business. So.... a bunch of really good schools one even being in Hungary, were closed even though they were getting results that medicine was not achieving.

O.k. I only wrote all that 'cuz I knew you would be interested not sure baout your other readers' ;)
You're gonna die when I tell you this .. the last three deep tissues, this one spot, guess where? Right side, shoulder blade & spine has YET to release completely :lmao: wtf right? I PRAY I get the relief you did :FRlol: That's awesome.

Thank you posting that :rose:... Seriously I am with you on finding certain areas fascinating. And NO JOKE, I thought to myself I wanna take a class where I can research this stuff & do a paper on it, even a 'speech' hahahahahahah and of course , you wrote one lol :D I cannot get over the strange things we have in common girl, I swear to *insert diety of choice* it kills me .. :)

Thank you for the tips on the table ;)
 
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