You're still kinds losing me with the way you have things phrased. I don't think I'd spend too much extra money on a "perfect" supplement. While the AF Store has an outstanding rep, and I currently use 2 of their products, you gotta keep in mind, that every supplement claims to be perfect, maybe not in those words, but they all claim to have what you're looking for and what you need. Now if the product had say a money-back guarantee on it, that may be a different story.