Help with first Tri tren cycle, please

[parabarap]

Hi all!
I need some help planning my second cycle. Apologies for my ignorance.
32 y old, 196cm 96KG 15% body fat, 13 years training.
Goals: I am not able to progress naturally anymore, so gains of lean mass and a bit of definition


Week------Sustanon-------Tri Tren------Primobolan-------Novaldex-----HCG
units______mg/w_______mg/w_______mg/w_________mg/d______UI


1.................300..............150..............200
2.................300..............150..............200.....................10
3.................350..............150..............200.....................10
4.................350..............150..............200.....................10
5.................350..............150..............200.....................10
6.................300..................................200.....................10
7.................300..................................200.....................10
8.................250..................................200.....................10
9.........................................................200.....................10............1500
10.......................................................200.....................10............1500
11..................................................................................30
12..................................................................................20
13..................................................................................10
+ PCT Clomid+ Novaldex




Some doubts:
a) It's right to continue primo two weeks after I finish Sustanon? I have read is good to keep the body in anabolic state when test fades.
b) HCG is rightly timed and dosed?
c) I am having trouble getting Proviron, is it necessary?
d) I am thinking on shortening the length one week, but keeping the same total quantities, so increasing a bit every week quantity. Is it a good idea?


Thanks a lot!

 

[joonp]

Hi all!
I need some help planning my second cycle. Apologies for my ignorance.
32 y old, 196cm 96KG 15% body fat, 13 years training.
Goals: I am not able to progress naturally anymore, so gains of lean mass and a bit of definition


Week------Sustanon-------Tri Tren------Primobolan-------Novaldex-----HCG
units______mg/w_______mg/w_______mg/w_________mg/d______UI


1.................300..............150..............200
2.................300..............150..............200.....................10
3.................350..............150..............200.....................10
4.................350..............150..............200.....................10
5.................350..............150..............200.....................10
6.................300..................................200.....................10
7.................300..................................200.....................10
8.................250..................................200.....................10
9.........................................................200.....................10............1500
10.......................................................200.....................10............1500
11..................................................................................30
12..................................................................................20
13..................................................................................10
+ PCT Clomid+ Novaldex




Some doubts:
a) It's right to continue primo two weeks after I finish Sustanon? I have read is good to keep the body in anabolic state when test fades.
b) HCG is rightly timed and dosed?
c) I am having trouble getting Proviron, is it necessary?
d) I am thinking on shortening the length one week, but keeping the same total quantities, so increasing a bit every week quantity. Is it a good idea?


Thanks a lot!

What was ur first cycle? Ur layout is hard to read. I think its this..
1-10 sust 300mg a week
1-10 tritren 150 mg a week
1-10 primo 200 mg a week
Dont use nolva on cycle. Get aromasin
U dont have to use proviron. Ive never used on cycle. I dont think ur ready for tren yet. You are not that knowledgeable in aas yet. Ur doses are all wrong. You also dont need to throw a lot of aas into the mix if ur training and nutrition are on point. You need to run sust 10-12 weeks. The long esters dont really kick in fully til like week 5 or so. Tri tren is also a bad idea for first time. The different esters can b a bitch if you dont know anything about them

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[parabarap]

Thanks for yur reply!

First cycle was sust 300mg/w and Deca 200mg/w for 8 weeks, got great gains from second week.

The current one is
1-8 sust 350mg a week
1-5 tritren 150 mg a week
1-10 primo 200 mg a week

Understood about Tren then!

 

[stevesmi]

where did you get this setup?

the hcg needs to be trashed. your pct is horrendous. please do not follow this

 

[parabarap]

I had an original setup done by my brother who has used steroids during around 4 years but not planning thoroughly, and as a result he barely has kept anything 2 years after his last cycle.

After that I posted the proposal in Spanish speaking forums and I got contradictory inputs, and changed most o it. Is not easy because you never get constructive comments in this world, it´s all just: "this is bad, don´t do thus"

That's why I decided to post here.

 

[dylangemelli]

your first indication is listening to someone who lost all of their gains, meaning they didnt know what they are doing and your right, you do get a lot of answers like that...

how may cycles have you previously ran? what are your full stats? age/height/weight/body fat?

 

[parabarap]

32 y old, 196cm 97KG 15% body fat, 13 years training.
Goals: I am not able to progress naturally anymore, so gains of lean mass and a bit of definition

Only one previous cycle 8 weeks
Sust: 300mg/w
Deca: 200/w

I know his planning is not good, that's why I posted in forums and ended up reworking pretty much all of it according to feedback received.

Thanks a lot for answering Dylan, I watched a lot of your videos and I am looking forward to have your youtube channel up and running again. (I know you are going to tell me about such a low primo dose...)

 

[dylangemelli]

hey bro... yes, the primo dose is pretty wasteful and pointless... i wouldnt even bother at that dose but beyond that, tren on a second cycle ? i cant advise that bro... thats just not wise and not something i would recommend to anyone whatsoever... i would honestly rethink this entire set up... remember, its a marathon, not a sprint...

 

[parabarap]

Thanks Dylan!

I note about the Tren and I would remove it, I thought keeping it at the bare minimum dose and length would be ok.

The reason behind the primo was a low dose to avoid increasing the amount of the other 2 androgenic compounds, and to maintain it two weeks longer than testosterone to prevent catabolism.

The initial setup was starting with primo and finishing with Masteron, at higher doses, but I discarded Masteron due to my BF%.

 

[dylangemelli]

if you are not going to run primo higher than that, dont bother man... its just a waste... i cant phrase it any other way...