Health care bill passed, say goodbye to your doctor!

[kx250rider]

Although there's still hope that this insanity will meet it's end when the house & senate get together, it's looking bad for now that it could become law.

Just a few thoughts here:

Insurance companies are barely making money now, and they will all leave town if this bill becomes law. Remember when they passed a law that all homeowners insurance companies had to sell earthquake insurance in California? They all packed up & quit selling homeowner policies immediately. So the state was forced to repeal that law, and created state socialized quake coverage to stack onto a regular homeowner policy. (CA Earthquake Authority). That coverage is totally useless, and I don't have it. The same exact thing will happen with medical insurance in the USA. Obama says the private insurance industry will remain, but it won't when it can't make a living anymore. Then the government will step in, and establish a public socialized plan, which will be the end of medical advancements in the USA.

For anyone who thinks that paying a small co-pay is helping you, you're sadly mistaken. Insurance policies are reactive; not proactive. Meaning, they will not pay for you to go get a REAL physical, or to investigate an ache or pain, unless your symptom falls under a written guideline in the policy. So often, things like cancer will go so far as to be hopelessly incurable by the time the symptoms get so bad that your doctor is allowed to test for it. The only thing the Obamacare bill is good for, is the prenatal care and birthing of illegal immigrant babies.

Forcing employers to pay for health care for workers is going to cause firings, layoffs and bankruptcies nationwide. It will drive good doctors to retire or quit, as they aren't going to want to be puppets of the insurance companies, if they're GOOD doctors. And if this crap goes as far as it has in Canada, you will be on a 6-month waiting list for emergency surgery, and you'll die before your turn ever comes up.

Now I've said all the doom & gloom, and here's the real answer that the Left will NEVER NEVER admit to; STOP THE DAMN FAKE LAWSUITS that are causing the cost of medicine to soar in the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If your doctor didn't have to pay $250,000 a year in malpractice insurance, he/she'd be able to see you for $25, and you'd get open heart surgery for $500. No insurance or government nannyism needed. Just keep $1000 in a special savings account, and you're fine. But sadly, the truth can't be told, and the real solution to mecical costs can't happen, since most of the lawmakers and our President are lawyers themselves.

Charles

 

[mrplunkey]

It's going to be a huge mess.

You can't bring-in a bunch of previously denied people and add coverage for more pre-existing conditions and offset the cost by making a few additional people buy health insurance. The numbers just don't add up. Higher rates are coming.

There are so many clever ways to drive costs down and it's uncanny how congress has managed to avoid all of them.

 

[EnderJE]

There are so many clever ways to drive costs down and it's uncanny how congress has managed to avoid all of them.

It reminds me what I used to say about my politicians.

"Are you even trying?!?!"

 

[mrplunkey]

It reminds me what I used to say about my politicians.

"Are you even trying?!?!"

We've split the payer (gubment) from the consumer (patient) from the provider (doctor) from the purchaser (hospital) -- and then we expect the system to work.

It's crazy. We could save tens of billions per year (or more) simply by giving the hospital a lump sum and use a portion of that money to contract (or outright hire) the physician. Add-in a token copay (i.e. 2%) on services starting with the first $1 and you'd strip additional tens of billions (or more) in cost.

 

[binö]

in america every man and woman will own a benz and a mansion!
that's how i read this bill.

 

[kx250rider]

What amazes me, is that not only here, but other forums where I hang out, there's NOBODY who thinks this bill is a good one. Some people say there are 1 or 2 good points, but I have yet to hear of anyone who gives it full blessings. If this is true, who the hell do the House and Congress think they're representing????!!!!!!

In most political debates, from religion in government to abortion to immigration, there's always a basic 50/50 split between people who are for and against. This one's a different animal!

Charles

 

[binö]

What amazes me, is that not only here, but other forums where I hang out, there's NOBODY who thinks this bill is a good one. Some people say there are 1 or 2 good points, but I have yet to hear of anyone who gives it full blessings. If this is true, who the hell do the House and Congress think they're representing????!!!!!!

In most political debates, from religion in government to abortion to immigration, there's always a basic 50/50 split between people who are for and against. This one's a different animal!

Charles

meh, i think if you expanded your polling group you'd see more support.

 

[DJ_UFO]

What amazes me, is that not only here, but other forums where I hang out, there's NOBODY who thinks this bill is a good one. Some people say there are 1 or 2 good points, but I have yet to hear of anyone who gives it full blessings. If this is true, who the hell do the House and Congress think they're representing????!!!!!!

In most political debates, from religion in government to abortion to immigration, there's always a basic 50/50 split between people who are for and against. This one's a different animal!

Charles

They are not representing anybody anymore. One thing is their campaign, plus mind control, and a totally different agenda is when they are in power. We are one step closer to the new order. But try to wake up the people. Good luck. lol

 

[mrplunkey]

meh, i think if you expanded your polling group you'd see more support.

I'd genuinely like to see someone explain how this bill is going to reduce health care costs. That's what suprises me -- premiums have to increase.

 

[EnderJE]

I'd genuinely like to see someone explain how this bill is going to reduce health care costs. That's what suprises me -- premiums have to increase.

I can. It's call magic!