Guys this is probably one of the most powerful I have been recommended by some people for hard, dry and fast gains, I guess it'll shut you down pretty good too if you don't take the necessary precautions, who has done it before and how would you stack this two together. My other question is how much test would you need on this stack to avoid libido suppression, I did only testosterone and test and winstrol before but I always have been curious about this agents together.