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Final Plan Review - First Cycle

TimeToGrow

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Okay so I have plan figured out... I'd love a final review and a great discussion.....

Thanks to everyone for all your help so far.

Stats:
26 Years old
183 lbls
12-14% Body Fat
5' 11"
Call if on and off training for 3 yrs and then 2 solid yrs.
First Cycle

Cycle
Weeks 1-3: 20mg DBol Every Day
Weeks 1-10: 250mg Sustanon (125mg every 3.5 days)

PCT:
Weeks: 11 - 14: 10mg Nolvadex Every Day
Weeks: 11 - 14: Dermacrine Sustain
Weeks: 11 - 14: Unleashed

A couple of questions:

1) Will 5 pumps a day be good for the dermacrine sustain
2) How much unleashed do I need to take
3) I can't get my hand on HCG so how does my PCT look?
4) Should I be taking Dermacrine Sustain throughout my cycle?

Where should I order the Dermacrine Sustain and Unleashed from. (Note I live in Canada).

Any other feedback would be great!

Any sites with training regimes for people on gear? Should I be training high volume or changing anything?
 
TimeToGrow said:
Okay so I have plan figured out... I'd love a final review and a great discussion.....

Thanks to everyone for all your help so far.

Stats:
26 Years old
183 lbls
12-14% Body Fat
5' 11"
Call if on and off training for 3 yrs and then 2 solid yrs.
First Cycle

Cycle
Weeks 1-3: 20mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - Every Day
Weeks 1-10: 250mg Sustanon (125mg every 3.5 days)

PCT - post cycle therapy - :
Weeks: 11 - 14: 10mg Nolvadex Every Day
Weeks: 11 - 14: Dermacrine Sustain
Weeks: 11 - 14: Unleashed

A couple of questions:
first of start the pct 2 weeks after last shot,and run it a full 4 weeks.
1) Will 5 pumps a day be good for the dermacrine sustain yes perfect
2) How much unleashed do I need to take use it just like the directions on the product says to
3) I can't get my hand on HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - so how does my PCT look? great
4) Should I be taking Dermacrine Sustain throughout my cycle?you can if you like it also works great as a light ai for light cycles like this one...though its best used for pct

Where should I order the Dermacrine Sustain and Unleashed from. (Note I live in Canada).there is no prob shipping ether product to there
dermacrin sustain...http://www.primordialperformance.com/topical_instructions.cfm
unleashed http://proteinfactory.com/shop/home.php?cat=7

Any other feedback would be great!

Any sites with training regimes for people on gear? Should I be training high volume or changing anything?



I would also think about ading myogenx to your pct you can get that from protein factory as well.

pm me for a discount on dermacrin sustain and more advice if needed
 
I ran this EXACT cycle (except my 20 mg d/bol was for 8 weeks lol) and my sus. 250 shot was once a week (big mistake, you are doing it proper IMO)

gains were 10-15 lbs during cycle (i actually LEANED out nicely at the end. i swear that shit is active up to 4 weeks in your system. my calories weren't enough though so who knows). i probably kept about 5 lbs and had some keepeable body composition changes

needto covered your questions, the only thing i would tweak is running the nolva @ 20 mg ED instead of 10

have fun
 
that looks like a fun first cycle. i would add hcg though... i know you cant find it, but still...
 
ego boner said:
that looks like a fun first cycle. i would add HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - though... i know you cant find it, but still...

that was actually my p'c't with this cycle....only h'c'g @ 500 iu E5 days for probably 40 days....no clomid or nolva and i recovered fine

just FYI
 
Certainly not a vet here, but wouldn't it be better to go with 2 weekly injects of 250mg sustanon simply because of the esters.

250mg a week of sust only comes out to 15mg test prop, 30mg test phenylprop,
test isocaproate 30mg, test decanoate 50mg twice a week.

since test prop has a very short half-life and phenylprop is like 2-3 days the total amount of built up test in his system isn't that much.

Definitely wouldn't play out like 125mg test E twice a week I think since you're getting a higher level of test for longer than the sust.

Just my thoughts.
 
I was planning on drawing have the Sus and storing it in a syringe for 3.5 days as the ampules are 250mg. Is there any issue with this? Someone told me it may break down the rubber in the syringe?

needtoget - ill be in touch...
 
TimeToGrow said:
I was planning on drawing have the Sus and storing it in a syringe for 3.5 days as the ampules are 250mg. Is there any issue with this? Someone told me it may break down the rubber in the syringe?

needtoget - ill be in touch...

no issue with that bro. i pre-loaded 10 weeks of shots with my last cycle.

just exercise caution with having clean hands, rubbing alcohol etc.

and no, it won't eat through a syringe
 
Acela said:
no issue with that bro. i pre-loaded 10 weeks of shots with my last cycle.

just exercise caution with having clean hands, rubbing alcohol etc.

and no, it won't eat through a syringe
Man oh man oh man this site is awesome
 
Okay more feedback time :)

It looks like I can get my hand on
Test Enanthate 300mg/ml

So I am revising my cycle as follows:

Cycle
Weeks 1-3: 20mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - Every Day
Weeks 1-10: 300mg Sustanon (300MG Every 7 Days)

PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - :
Weeks: 13 - 17: 10mg Nolvadex Every Day
Weeks: 13 - 17: Dermacrine Sustain
Weeks: 13 - 17: Unleashed

I can get my hands on Arimidex and some other PC.T drugs. Should I or does my above PCT look okay.


BTW I have my diet dialed in - how does this look:

cals fat carb pro
Meal 1 9:00 AM 2 Scoops Optimum 245 5 6 44
1 Cup Oatmeal (raw) 360 6 60 12

Meal 2 10:30 AM 6 OZ Chicken Breast (cooked) 275 6 0 52
1 Cup White Rice Cooked 204 0 45 4
1 TBSP Olive Oil 119 14 0 0

Meal 3 12:30 PM 6 OZ Pork Tenderloin (cooked) 292 10 0 47
1 Cup Brown Rice 204 0 45 5

Meal 4 2:30 PM 6 OZ Chicken or Pork (cooked) 275 6 0 52
1 Cup WW Noodles raw 310 1.5 62 4
1 TBSP Olive Oil 119 14 0 0

Meal 5 4:30 PM 2 Scoops Optimum 245 5 6 44
.5 Oatmeal Raw 180 3 30 6

Meal 6 6:30 PM Nlarge 2 600 6 85 52

Meal 7 8:30 PM 8 OZ Tbone Cooked Fat Trimmed 460 24 0 61
1 Cup WW Noodles raw 310 1.5 62 4

Meal 8 11:00 PM 2 Scoops Optimum 245 5 6 44
1 Cup Skim Milk 90 0 10 8

Snack 6 OZ Strawberries or Some Sort of Fruit 50 0 10 1
4583 107 427 440

 
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