i have turned down paying clients that want me to advise them on clen... i would never advise that to anyone nor would i with t3... the only time i would advise using them is if they are medically prescribed... messing around with your thyroid is not anything i ever recommend...
sarms are by far the better option... check out esarms.com and you can get a cutting stack there and you wont have to worry about all of these terrible side effects that come along with clen and t3 man