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Deca vs. oxandrolone vs.Test-E on bodyfat composition...

HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Found yet another study I believe is on the interesting side:
Different steroidal analogues(Oxandrolone,Nandrolone,Testosterone Enanthate) going head to head as combatants of fat production/storage...Worth noting is oxandrolone's SUPERIORITY over test and deca in visceral and abdominal fat depletion.Ox also carried some negative sides-cholesterol scale tipping to an unfavorable balance,T-3 &T-4 suppression,as well as T levels dropping slightly.Deca was actually able to REVERSE the cholesterol scale back to a favorable position,as well as reverse suppression of thyroid hormonal output(maybe a need to stack deca and oxandrolone together?)Enjoy folks... :)



Oral anabolic steroid treatment, but not parenteral androgen treatment, decreases abdominal fat in obese, older men.

Lovejoy JC, Bray GA, Greeson CS, Klemperer M, Morris J, Partington C, Tulley R
Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord 1995 Sep 19:614-24

Abstract
OBJECTIVE: To compare the effects of testosterone enanthate (TE), anabolic steroid (AS) or placebo (PL) on regional fat distribution and health risk factors in obese middle-aged men undergoing weight loss by dietary means. DESIGN: Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial, carried out for 9 months with primary assessments at 3 month intervals. Due to adverse blood lipid changes, the AS group was switched from oral oxandrolone (ASOX) to parenteral nandrolone decaoate (ASND) after the 3 month assessment point. SUBJECTS: Thirty healthy, obese men, aged 40-60 years, with serum testosterone (T) levels in the low-normal range (2-5 ng/mL). MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Abdominal fat distribution and thigh muscle volume by CT scan, body composition by dual energy X-ray absorptiometry (DEXA), insulin sensitivity by the Minimal Model method, blood lipids, blood chemistry, blood pressure, thyroid hormones and urological parameters. RESULTS: After 3 months, there was a significantly greater decrease in subcutaneous (SQ) abdominal fat in the ASOX group compared to the TE and PL groups although body weight changes did not differ by treatment group. There was also a tendency for the ASOX group to exhibit greater losses in visceral fat, and the absolute level of visceral fat in this group was significantly lower at 3 months than in the TE and PL groups. There were significant main effects of treatment at 3 months on serum T and free T (increased in the TE group and decreased in the ASOX group) and on thyroid hormone parameters (T4 and T3 resin uptake significantly decreased in the ASOX group compared with the other two groups). There was a significant decrease in HDL-C, and increase in LDL-C in the ASOX group, which led to their being switched to the parenteral nandrolone decanoate (ASND) after 3 months. ASND had opposite effects on visceral fat from ASOX, producing a significant increase from 3 to 9 months while continuing to decrease SQ abdominal fat. ASND treatment also decreased thigh muscle area, while ASOX treatment increased high muscle. ASND reversed the effects of ASOX on lipoproteins and thyroid hormones. The previously reported effect of T to decrease visceral fat was not observed, in fact, visceral fat in the TE group increased slightly from 3 to 9 months, although SQ fat continued to decrease. Neither TE nor AS treatment resulted in any change in urologic parameters. CONCLUSIONS: Oral oxandrolone decreased SQ abdominal fat more than TE or weight loss alone and also tended to produce favorable changes in visceral fat. TE and ASND injections given every 2 weeks had similar effects to weight loss alone on regional body fat. Most of the beneficial effects observed on metabolic and cardiovascular risk factors were due to weight loss per se. These results suggest that SQ and visceral abdominal fat can be independently modulated by androgens and that at least some anabolic steroids are capable of influencing abdominal fat.
 
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add arimidex..at effective dosages..which may, unfortunately be 2-4mg a day for optimal (not complete) suppression (though if you have less bodyfat you will need less).... and test will beat them both HANDS DOWN.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
add arimidex..at effective dosages..which may, unfortunately be 2-4mg a day for optimal (not complete) suppression (though if you have less bodyfat you will need less).... and test will beat them both HANDS DOWN.

Now that is one delusional statement. :)

Deca+RU would OBLITERATE Test+Arimidex

Fonz
 
barnidge said:
Macro: Does Anavar have any effect on A2 receptors??
NO DIRECT EFFECT


BUT....

it may/will decrease test and as a 17aa there may be an increase aromatase(this varies and since most aromatization takes place peripherally...well???)... so it may increase estrogen.. which may be why some people get gyno from it... though it may just be that it is contaminated anavar.

if it upsets the balance with an increase in estrogen.. since anavar is not a strong androgen (which both test and its metabolite DHT are) it may increase risk of gyno... but will probably not increase A2 stimulation because even though there is more aromatase there is less test to convert..
 
Very good read. Huck has been consistently posting intriguing studies since pre-mod days till now.

I wonder if any studies were done on fat burning effects(if any) from methandriol depropionate? Since MD is an estrogen which strangely, does not aromatise.
 
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