John C Calhoun
New member
What Needsize says. The crap that you lose all your gains are largely based on the experience that users had years ago (pre pct) when dianabol was so widely available and easy to use that many people who used it, used it alone without anti-estrogens, used it too long, and their gains were so good when on that the losses and sides post cycle were then exaggerated. Your BP definitely goes up, you get alot of water weight (thus the BP), it aromatizes possibly leading to gyno, but your stength increases are awesome - very anabolic and androgenic. The toxicity on the liver has probably been exagerated a bit, but saying that about any sort of a 17-alpha alky-lated oral nowdays makes you look like a heretic. At about 30 mg/day your gains should be immediate (within a week or so). You should get great pumps. I don't recommend using it too long (no more than4-5 weeks) cause of the increase in BP and its aromitization. Have Nolva on hand and watch out for bitch tits.