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basskiller

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I've been around here for some time now. I done search after search on "cycles" (try it there is almost 1300 matches). My head is spinning. There are so many with so many different veiws!

Alot of you are very helpful in different ways.....

But here goes..... let me know what you think?

6' 2'' 240 big frame I can eat like a horse if I need to.(and I will.) BF% ?
I want to be around 260-270 when I'm done.
I also know that it will take more than this one cycle!

I Work out eod.

Cycle looks like this:



week:1 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:2 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:3 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:4 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:5 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:6 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:7 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:8 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod Clomid 100mg/ed
week:9 Clomid 50mg/ed

With Nolvadex on hand

Or should I substatute durabolin/300MG/week for the d-bol
With Nolvadex on hand Of course

Going for a mid August start.

So before I start getting all this.... I would like a little input. (I do not have an extremely large wallet to just be throwing it out the window)

basskiller
 
I will recommend this as almost everyone's first mass cycle until the day I die. It's simple and works well.

Testosterone, either enanthate or cypionate, it's cheap and long lasting. Run it between 500-750 mg per week for weeks 1-10. Since you're a pretty big guy I would run it at 750mg.

Equipoise at 400-600 mg per week along with the test for weeks 1-10. Eq is good stuff, and because it causes estrogen induced gyno instead of the progesterone induced gyno that deca causes it's sides can be controlled with the same meds you use to control the tests sides.

Dianabol at 30-50mg a day for weeks 1-4. This will give your cycle a good kick in the ass to start things off. It's true that anadrol will kick things off a little better, but I would stick with the dbol for the same reason I would choose eq over deca.

Winstrol at 50mg a day for weeks 5-10. This is optional, but it will really harden you up at the end of your cycle and will make you look and feel better. Winstrol and equipoise together are really great.

Keep nolvadex on hand or run .25mg-1mg a day of arimidex throughout your cycle. The arimidex is an experimental thing for most guys and their first cycle including it is more of a test than anything else. Some guys need more and some need less. In any case it will deter estrogen related gyno and keep your water retention at a minimum.

Use clomid weeks 13-15 in the following manner. 100mg a day in week 13, 50mg a day in week 14, and 50 mg every other day in week 15. This will get your two best friends back on your good side, and will get your natural test production back in order and will help you keep your gains.

Good luck bro, and if you have any other questions feel free to ask.
 
Whoa, easy on the dbol. Keep it at about 4-6 weeks. Do the winny for 6 weeks. Also I would either do the winny @ 50mg ED or 100mg EOD.
 
good luck with your first cycle just be careful with the orals my friend....you should see some real nice gains off this cycle...

cheers
 
basskiller said:



week:1 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:2 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:3 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:4 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:5 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:6 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:7 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod
week:8 test depot250 500mg/week d-bol 30mg/ed winny 50mg/eod Clomid 100mg/ed
week:9 Clomid 50mg/ed


basskiller

due to supply and demand I demand more than supply has J/K

weeks 1 thru 10 test cyp 500mg/ Eq 400mg/
1 thru 4 d-bol 30mg/ed
5 thru 10 win 50mg/ed
13 Clomid 100mg/ed
14 Clomid 50mg/ed
15 Clomid 50mg/eod

Thanks for the help guys
We'll see how this works........

And now......can anyone give me a loan!!!!! J/K
 
I pick enanthate or cypionate over sust because it's about half the price. Any time you can do twice as much test for the same price it sounds good to me :)
 
If you decide to do that much Winny and D-bol for 8 full weeks, be sure to supplement with milk thistle to keep your liver in check. Happy roidin'. :)
 
badazzwhitedude said:
If you decide to do that much Winny and D-bol for 8 full weeks, be sure to supplement with milk thistle to keep your liver in check. Happy roidin'. :)

Hey bad, you missed the updated cycle onmy reply post..

Some of the guys told me the same and helped me with this....


weeks 1 thru 10 test cyp 500mg/ Eq 400mg/
1 thru 4 d-bol 30mg/ed
5 thru 10 win 50mg/ed
13 Clomid 100mg/ed
14 Clomid 50mg/ed
15 Clomid 50mg/eod

But thanks for the input
 
I would cut the D-Bol off after week 5 and take the Winny every day. Also start the Clomid 2 weeks after your last shot of Test. Good Luck on your cycle!

M18
 
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