layinback said:
i read your threads and you are very helpful to many ppl. i respect your opinion so please explain your protestations.
I just feel drugs like this are habit forming and bad for over all health...yes they have there place but should "always" be a last resort.
may be meltonin might not seem right to you for what ever reason but there is a few factors to look at....aas causes stress "and tren causes more then others"we all have experienced it...stress affects circulating melatonin levels.there are hundreds of studies showing melatonin's effects on this type of stress among all the other things it can do.steroids in some cases can cause same oxidative stress witch again many studies have proven melatonin can and has helped with..
but lets just put melatonin on the back burner and think here.there is more then just melatonin out there that can aid with sleep problems prescribed drugs dont have to be the answer lets also look at valerian root
Valerian is a hardy perennial flowering plant with sweet-smelling pink or white flowers. The name Valerian means “to be strong or healthy” in Latin, and this translation is generally regarded to refer to its medicinal use, though it is suggested that it also refers to the strong odor.
Valerian is native to Europe, South Africa, and parts of Asia and was introduced to North America. Ancient Greeks used the plant for a variety of medical disorders ranging from liver problems, digestive ailments, and urinary tract disorders to nausea and insomnia. Valerian has also been used for centuries for nervous conditions and has been traditionally used for sleeplessness, epilepsy, nervousness, hysteria and as a diuretic.
Valerian may be indicated for the relief of insomnia, stress-related anxiety, and nervous restlessness. It may also be used to ease stomach and menstrual cramps, irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), some of the restlessness that accompanies attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and migraine symptoms. And, more rarely, it may be used to treat convulsions from a seizure disorder. In its most well-documented use, however, it is used as a calmant to help people sleep.
many many studies have bin don to show its effects on sleeping...
Lemon balm
Lemon balm ( Melissa officinalis ), a member of the mint family, is considered a "calming" herb. It was used in the Middle Ages to reduce stress and anxiety, promote sleep, improve appetite, and ease pain and discomfort associated with digestion (including flatulence and bloating as well as colic
5-HTP
5- HTP provides the quickest, most effective, and most consistent overall results in treating insomnia. it is an effective alternative for dealing with sleep problems in a safe and natural way compared to sleep medicines. 5-HTP improves the quality of sleep. More importantly, clinical studies show that 5- HTP is also useful in the treatment of sleep disorders other than insomnia.
5-HTP increases REM sleep significantly (typically by about 25 percent) while simultaneously increasing deep sleep stages 3 and 4 without increasing total sleep time. 5- HTP accomplishes this by shortening the amount of time you spend in sleep stages 1 and 2, which in certain ways are the least important stages of the cycle. The higher the dose, the more time spent in REM.
By shifting the balance of the sleep cycle, 5-HTP makes sleep more restful and rejuvenating. Instead of waking feeling tired, worn out, and "hungover," people taking 5- HTP feel vibrant, well rested, and ready to take on the challenges of the day. When we sleep more deeply and dream more efficiently, we wake in the morning with our physical and psychological batteries fully charged.
5-htp also raises Serotonin levels
the list just gos on and on for miles of all the safer more effective things to use for help getting to sleep and I think we all owe it to our selfs to always try the safer more healthy less babit forming way first......
sorry it took me so long to get back to you.it was getting to long so I cut it short lol so your lucky I did not take longer.