thanks everyone for the replies—from PMs, I thought it might be helpful to outline my twisted logic behind all these supps and meds…
so, explicitly and annoyingly, the $2000 (deceptively-expensive), but relatively safe, polypharmacy for my 12 week prop/NPP cycle is:
Week 1-4:
-Test prop @ 100mg EOD
-Test *cream* @ 300mg EOD
-GH @ 4IU/day
-LR3-IGF 1 @ 20mcg/day
-slin @ 3 units/day
-Femara (letro) @ 1.25mg ED
-arimidex .25mg ED (leftover from prior cycles)
-HCG @ 500IU EOD
-nolva @ 20mg ED
Week 5-12:
-same as Week 1-4, but…add:
-NPP at 75mg EOD = 280mg/week
-dostinex @ .5 mg E4D
PCT/fat burning:
-2 days after last injection of Week 12-Week 16:
-nolva @ 40mg ED
-dostinex @ .5 mg E4D
-HCG @ 500IU EOD
Week 17-18
-nolva @ 20mg ED
Week 9-20
-beta-adrenergic mix:
-ephidrine Hcl 12.5 mg
-caffeine 100 mg
-Forskolin 30mg
-Acetyl-L-Carnitine 200mg
-Guggulsterones 30mg (week 14-20 only)
-yohimbine Hcl 3mg (week 14-20 only)
-clen 40-100 mcg (week 18-20 only)
Week 1-20 Supps:
-betagen 5g pre-workout + 5g post-workout
-glutamine, 10g upon waking (anti-catabolic) + 10g pre-wo + 10g post-wo
-whey protein, 6 x 30g during day (fast absorbing protein, but in milk…helps keep nitrogen retention constant)
-casein whey 30g at bed
-cytovol, 10g post-wo
-HMB, 3 x 1g
-vit-c, 2g upon waking (anti-catabolic) + 2g post-wo
-vit-b complex (bodybuilders are deficient in b-vitamins)
-glucosamine, msm, chondrointin combo (joints)
-tumeric extract, post-wo (antioxidants are anti-cat. supposedly)
-lycopene, post-wo “”
-fish oil
-CLA, 3g (shown to preserve LBM)
-flax seed (anti-estrogen, good for joints)
-milk thistle w/ syl. Standardized
-cranberry extract
-SAM-e (mood elevation, joints)
-st. john’s wort (mood elevation)
-ZMA 1 hr b/f bedtime (don’t want ZMA-calcium negating effect, so won’t take with casein)
Week 1-20 Hair/Acne:
-Accutane 40mg
-Pantothenic acid, 3-5g
-most rigorous hair protocol (thanks Junk and Dr. Lee):
Morning:
-revivogen/polysorbate 80 shampoo rotation (copper peptides proven to
increase circulation, possibly hairgrowth and poly 80 decreases
inflammation assoc. w/ MPB)
-Xandrox 5% (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply 5% Spironolactone (crown and hairline)
-1.25 mg proscar
Afternoon:
-Rogaine extra strength
-wait 10 minutes, then apply Retin-A 0.025% (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply 5% Spironolactone (crown and hairline)
-1.25 mg proscar
-Avodart .5 mg
Night:
-shampoo w/ Ketoconazole 2% (only every third day)
-wait until hair dries, then apply Xandrox15 (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply Retin-A 0.025% (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply 5% Spironolactone (crown and hairline)
-Avodart .5 mg
Questions:
-can I mix test prop and NPP in one syringe?
-Because I’ll have an Rx for prop (but not NPP), can I just transfer all my NPP (sterilely of course) into the prop vials?
thank y'all again--
so, explicitly and annoyingly, the $2000 (deceptively-expensive), but relatively safe, polypharmacy for my 12 week prop/NPP cycle is:
Week 1-4:
-Test prop @ 100mg EOD
-Test *cream* @ 300mg EOD
-GH @ 4IU/day
-LR3-IGF 1 @ 20mcg/day
-slin @ 3 units/day
-Femara (letro) @ 1.25mg ED
-arimidex .25mg ED (leftover from prior cycles)
-HCG @ 500IU EOD
-nolva @ 20mg ED
Week 5-12:
-same as Week 1-4, but…add:
-NPP at 75mg EOD = 280mg/week
-dostinex @ .5 mg E4D
PCT/fat burning:
-2 days after last injection of Week 12-Week 16:
-nolva @ 40mg ED
-dostinex @ .5 mg E4D
-HCG @ 500IU EOD
Week 17-18
-nolva @ 20mg ED
Week 9-20
-beta-adrenergic mix:
-ephidrine Hcl 12.5 mg
-caffeine 100 mg
-Forskolin 30mg
-Acetyl-L-Carnitine 200mg
-Guggulsterones 30mg (week 14-20 only)
-yohimbine Hcl 3mg (week 14-20 only)
-clen 40-100 mcg (week 18-20 only)
Week 1-20 Supps:
-betagen 5g pre-workout + 5g post-workout
-glutamine, 10g upon waking (anti-catabolic) + 10g pre-wo + 10g post-wo
-whey protein, 6 x 30g during day (fast absorbing protein, but in milk…helps keep nitrogen retention constant)
-casein whey 30g at bed
-cytovol, 10g post-wo
-HMB, 3 x 1g
-vit-c, 2g upon waking (anti-catabolic) + 2g post-wo
-vit-b complex (bodybuilders are deficient in b-vitamins)
-glucosamine, msm, chondrointin combo (joints)
-tumeric extract, post-wo (antioxidants are anti-cat. supposedly)
-lycopene, post-wo “”
-fish oil
-CLA, 3g (shown to preserve LBM)
-flax seed (anti-estrogen, good for joints)
-milk thistle w/ syl. Standardized
-cranberry extract
-SAM-e (mood elevation, joints)
-st. john’s wort (mood elevation)
-ZMA 1 hr b/f bedtime (don’t want ZMA-calcium negating effect, so won’t take with casein)
Week 1-20 Hair/Acne:
-Accutane 40mg
-Pantothenic acid, 3-5g
-most rigorous hair protocol (thanks Junk and Dr. Lee):
Morning:
-revivogen/polysorbate 80 shampoo rotation (copper peptides proven to
increase circulation, possibly hairgrowth and poly 80 decreases
inflammation assoc. w/ MPB)
-Xandrox 5% (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply 5% Spironolactone (crown and hairline)
-1.25 mg proscar
Afternoon:
-Rogaine extra strength
-wait 10 minutes, then apply Retin-A 0.025% (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply 5% Spironolactone (crown and hairline)
-1.25 mg proscar
-Avodart .5 mg
Night:
-shampoo w/ Ketoconazole 2% (only every third day)
-wait until hair dries, then apply Xandrox15 (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply Retin-A 0.025% (crown and hairline)
-wait 10 minutes, then apply 5% Spironolactone (crown and hairline)
-Avodart .5 mg
Questions:
-can I mix test prop and NPP in one syringe?
-Because I’ll have an Rx for prop (but not NPP), can I just transfer all my NPP (sterilely of course) into the prop vials?
thank y'all again--