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richscd2 said:All these abcess stories are getting to me. All juicers no matter newbie or pros will eventually get fucked over by an abcess. with all these injections , abcesses are bound to happen to one of us. which antibiotic are best for treating abcesses?
BigCracker said:Another thing to keep in mind is that most bacteria in injectable AS is transmitted from the stopper into the solution when you poke through it with a needle(preferably an unused one-a used one will just increase the bacteria even more). Therefore larger multi dose vials can be contaminated a lot easier than using smaller dose vials or Amps. Also water based injectables seem to be more abcess prone since they often require daily or EOD injections. Take extra care to alcohol the stoppers of water based solutions for this reason.
justinjones1963 said:I'm glad you pointed that out.
I homebrew my stuff and I have realized that the large vials get abused more (more pins through the rubber) and this is dangerous. A practice I have developed is when I make a big batch I break it down into 5ml and 10ml vials (and refilter again) to lower the chances of having to stick a 50ml vials 20+ times. I'd rather spend the extra $5 for a filter and $1 for a 5ml sterile vials and be safe.
Swabbing the rubber stopper before an inject is a must too.
Also, this is an excellent thread! Great replies above.
BigCracker said:I think one of the mods here says he only pokes his stopper once-and leaves the needle inserted for the purpose of "loading only" w/o ever removing it until the bottle is empty. He'd fill the body of the syringe for the injection, unscrew it, and replace it with a fresh needle to shoot with. He would then replace the body of a fresh syringe on the needle in the bottle as a cap and to use for his next shot. This seems pretty anal to me-but with 20 cc or larger vials I think it's a good idea. It surely can't hurt.
justinjones1963 said:It does seem anal but the last batch of EQ I made had rubber in it after only one insert with an 18g needle. I had to refilter everything. (I use 23g for everything now) It may have been just a bad rubber seal but I can see the point of not wanting to keep plunging it in and out. Especially if there is bacteria on the surface and the person doesn't wipe the rubber for each use.