x
Almost there! Please complete this form and click the button below to gain instant access.
EliteFitness.com FREE Email Series: How You Can Use Winstrol, Masteron, HGH, and Testosterone for a Perfect, Muscular Physique!
- -
We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe.
- -
puritysourcelabsdomestic-supply
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals

Any updates to sarms/cancer?


Welcome to the EliteFitness.com Bodybuilding Site! Please join this discussion about Any updates to sarms/cancer? within the Anabolic Steroids category.

Excerpt: Hey guys just wondering if there has been any updates when it comes to sarms and if they can cause cancer I heard that they can split and grow cells in the body similar to what growth hormone can do. that's why I'm kind of worried because cancer is something that has affected many people in my family. Is there any updated information about if it's causing it

Read more or register here to join the discussion below...

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 18
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Oct 2021
    Posts
    6
    Rep Power
    0

    Any updates to sarms/cancer?

    Hey guys just wondering if there has been any updates when it comes to sarms and if they can cause cancer
    I heard that they can split and grow cells in the body similar to what growth hormone can do.

    that's why I'm kind of worried because cancer is something that has affected many people in my family. Is there any updated information about if it's causing it

  2. #2
    Moderator dylangemelli's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    MAUI
    Posts
    21,236
    Rep Power
    3447

    Re: Any updates to sarms/cancer?

    ridiculous...

    Arguments for Cancer
    Rodent Studies

    In just about every thread or article out there you can find about the use of GW-501516 (GW or Cardarine) in humans, somebody always feels the need say it causes cancer. This is mainly based on a study in which rodents who were subjected to GW developed cancer during the clinical trials, which is partially true. Though, the information these people tend to leave out is under what conditions were these rodents developed cancer during the study. This argument is either because they are repeating something they read online, or realized if they cited the actually study their argument would lose all validity. The study, that is so often referred to, subjected rats to supraphysiological dosages of 10mg/kg of body, or to put that in perspective, a 200lb man (roughly 90 kg) dosing around 900mgs of GW-501516 per day. These doses defy any sensible logic and, therefore, hold no standing at the suggested dosage of 20mg a day.
    The study cited above, rats were given the equivalent of a 900mgs dose of GW; this would be comparable to taking 14,625 mgs of aspirin per day. Usually, 325 mgs of aspirin is 1 dose (1 pill). This dose of aspirin could literally KILL you, forget cancer!








    Also worth noting is that the mice in the study were given 7,12-Dimethylbenz(A)Anthracene (DMBA) for an entire year. DMBA is a known carcinogen that is considered extremely toxic. It is an immunosuppressor and a tumor accelerator. So, no wonder the damn mice got cancer!
    Therefore, this study is pretty flawed and the public concern over Cardarine has been blown out of proportion.
    I’m not saying that there is no risk whatsoever as any synthetic compound has some level of risk. However, I truly believe the credibility of the cancer studies should be taken with a grain of salt, especially when considering the rats being given DMBA for a whole year.


    Another note of significant importance in relation to studying on rats. The rats used in this particular study are termed Han Wiser Rats. The life expectancy of these rats is 30-36 months and the reason for this is because of the number of adenocarcinomas that they develop… Before we even look at the animal models, you already know that the rats are not expected to live more than three years because of their high probability of developing cancer. It is obvious this study was flawed and subjective for whatever the reason from the start!




    Flawed Testing Methods

    Certain studies supporting the claim that GW causes cell proliferation in human cancer cell lines were flawed from the very beginning. These studies set out to prove an increase growth of cancer cells by estimating the number of cells using a method that tested for enzyme activity, increased activity would indicate more cells. The issue with this testing method is the very substance that they are testing with actually increases enzyme activity within cells. One can quickly see that judging cell proliferation by enzyme activity, while introducing a substance that increases enzyme activity, can give skewed results in regards to an increase in cells. Even if no increase in cells occurred, the increased enzyme activity could lead one to believe it had. In layman terms, it's like testing if your water is contaminated with bacteria by adding bacteria to it!

    Although some reports do provide an argument for cancer, there are many other findings that are inconsistent with the viewpoint. For example, GW is an-501516 anti-inflammatory in many cell types; colon epithelium, macrophages, cardiomyocytes, immune cells, myoblasts, endothelial cells, and hepatocytes. Evidence also suggest that GW-501516 (cardarine) promotes differentiation in intestinal epithelium, breast and colon cancer cell lines, and trophoblasts This means it allows cells to become more specialized cells maintaining a natural limitation of certain cell types, without such a limitation, basic cells would run rampant invading areas they typically do not belong. GW has also been demonstrated inhibition of cell growth in a number of cells.
    Summary of arguments against cancer:
     GW is an anti-inflammatory in many cells
     GW limits cancers
     GW inhibits high cell growth
     GW reduces cancer risks
    Studies

    A study was done in an attempt to discover why so many inconsistencies existed about GW. This study took three human colon cancer cell lines and two human liver cancer cell lines and tested using different models. Model 1, in the presence of or lack of serum, and, model 2, in the presence of or lack of GW, and studied them over culture period. The results were quantified using the Coulter Method, which is the gold standard of counting, to determine cell proliferation. Under the testing methods for this experiment, all five samples showed no changes in cell proliferation and failed to offer any evidence that PPARs such as GW increased cancer growth.

  3. #3
    Moderator Fella Finn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2018
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    3,073
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Any updates to sarms/cancer?

    Dylan covered it all! There are no instances of cancer occurring in humans that I have ever seen or encountered before






  4. #4
    HEAD MODERATOR stevesmi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    41,939
    Rep Power
    122784

    Re: Any updates to sarms/cancer?

    no sarms do not grow cells like gh
    Now taking clients for 1 on 1 consults
    Looking for a steroid source? click> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...iii-59858.html
    http://goo.gl/kDk0zS <save 10% on bloodwork
    http://goo.gl/bVJ44F <authorized supp store deals
    https://goo.gl/Vy5WA7 <Ebooks 4sale


  5. #5
    ELITE MODERATOR the_alcatraz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    33,188
    Rep Power
    6419

    Re: Any updates to sarms/cancer?

    Quote Quote posted by Drandon View Post
    Hey guys just wondering if there has been any updates when it comes to sarms and if they can cause cancer
    I heard that they can split and grow cells in the body similar to what growth hormone can do.

    that's why I'm kind of worried because cancer is something that has affected many people in my family. Is there any updated information about if it's causing it
    Sarms dont cause cancer thats broscience myths

  6. #6
    ceo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    The downside of being better than everyone else, is that people tend to assume you're pretentious.
    Posts
    27,170
    Rep Power
    184014
    bros NO sarms cause cancer, its a lie

  7. #7
    Elite Bodybuilder ROIDDERS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    1,639
    Rep Power
    0
    sarms doesn't cause cancer

  8. #8
    Top 5 Jr. USA Lt/hvy weight Quadsweep's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Posts
    5,915
    Rep Power
    107
    cardarine gw501516 doesn't cause cancer at normal doses
    www.needtobuildmuscle.com sponsored athlete!!!

    In the final arena, there will be no judges, only witnesses to my greatness!

    The weak suffer what they must. The strong endure what they will.

  9. #9
    Chairman Member Ulter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Orlando, FL
    Posts
    15,627
    Rep Power
    328
    sarms dont cause cancer its fact

  10. #10
    Elite Mentor e2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2000
    Location
    VALHALLA
    Posts
    1,428
    Rep Power
    0
    cardarine gw501516 has been proven to PREVENT some cancer issues

Similar Threads

  1. Do sarms cause cancer
    By Henory in forum Anabolic Steroids
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 20-Nov-2021, 03:22 PM
  2. how likely is cancer on sarms?
    By SimGomez in forum Anabolic Steroids
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 16-Feb-2021, 01:22 PM
  3. Best sarms for a female afraid of cancer growth
    By GDany in forum Women's Fitness (Female Bodybuilding and Training)
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 22-Feb-2018, 09:55 PM
  4. Any updates on SARMS s4?
    By truckdaddy in forum Anabolic Steroids
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 15-Jan-2009, 12:32 AM
  5. Male Breast Cancer: Low Sex Drive Ups Men's Cancer Risk
    By George Spellwin in forum Anabolic Steroids
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 17-Nov-2000, 05:04 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •