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20 years old- on trt- need help

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hey guys,

Im new to the forum, but a frequent poster on the meso forum. was looking for some other opinions, always helps.

im 20, with primary hypergonadism. i hate my body. i have skinny arms and back, but a pot belly and fatty chest. i get depressed easily, and bloat like a fish when i touch carbs. the only thing which keeps the waight off is atkins, but i dont think its healthy to be ketogenic all the time.

after 2 years of on and off 5mg testogel, i recently switched to sustanon 125mg a week and 200 iu of hcg a week. it was going really well, i felt tight and strong and lost a little weight, but recently, after my 6th shot, i started to have flu like symptoms. i have gone back to feeling depressed and bloated, despite the fact that i am still on the same, dr prescribed and legit sustanon.

i am looking for some advice as to what i can do to cut the bloat, and loose the fat. i was thinking of breaking my sustanon shots up into two weekly 50mg shots (rather than a single 125) and possibly even do them subq.

my other concern is hairloss, which i am susceptiable to. i havent yet managed to get any proscar or whatever, so all i have is otc stuff like green tea extract and saw palmetto and nizoral.

i am concerned that injecting sub q sustanon, may actually increase dht due to the enzyme action in the belly.

what do you guys think.
I wonder if you can advise me. by the way,on my last blood test, on sustanon 125 mg a week, i had a midweek bloodtest, half way between shots, and my level was 45, with the suggested boundaries being 14-28 for normal gus. does this seem an ok level to you or two high.

anyway here are the results in full

Testosterone = 43.1 nmol/l (somewhere between 12 and 30)
Oestrodial = 125 (less than 190)
DHEAS = 4.3 (lab says in range)
SHBG = 31.1 (13-71)
Cortisol = 685 (high i think)
Prolactin = 239
DHT= dont know, my gp wouldnt let me do another one due to cost, but when doing 1.5packs of testogel a day, my dht went twice the normal range, despite the fact my t was near the bottom of the scale.

what a mess
 
The estradiol seems like a concern. I am not sure of the units of measurement, but I think under 25 mg/Dl is ideal. That will cause bloating, etc.
 
Not a mess .... just a beginning.

My first reaction is that your diet is causing you a lot of grief. I stay on high protein, high slow bulky carbs (veggies), and super low fast, simple carbs. Lots of water and decafs. This diet alone gets rid of held water and fat while building muscle. At 29, you should be able to pop some berries and a piece of whole grain something with no adverse effects. And whole fat milk too.

Then comes exercise ... a basic body building routine with low reps and heavy weights.

Then full recovery with lots of sleep.

Finally ... drugs. I'd think that as little as 5 mg a day of test will make a difference at 20 years young. I'd recommend a bio-identical topical from a compound pharmacy. And HGH... You might not be pumping out enough even at 20. As little as 1 iu three times a week would be a good kick.

Be careful with drugs. You are signing up for 40-80 years of administration. Sure would be more healthy to have diet, exercise and sleep do the job for you.
 
"im 20, with primary hypergonadism"

If you have primary hypergonadism, your testicles are not responding to LH and FSH. Your condition occurs when the HPTA is producing high levels of LH, but your testicles can not respond to make adequate levels of Testosterone, and becuase your testicles likely will not respond to the FSH in your body, you are most likely infertile. I hope this is not the case, but you may want to discuss this with your doctor. Also, have you sought a second opinion on your diagnosis?

Has your doctor looked at your XY Chromosomes to see if there are any explinations?

Also given that you have primary testicle failure, why then does your doctor have you on HCG? If your testicles will not respond to the high levels of gonadotrophins in your body(LH and FSH) what does he or she hope to achieve by adding another gonadotrophin HCG which imitates the function of LH in the male body?

Check out my Male Reproductive Endocrinology post listed a few posts down from yours. It has some good information and graphic illustrations from medical text books and medical school endocrinology lectures.
 
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