posted January 22, 2000 06:00 PM         

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I am starting a d-bol, sust, equipose stack how much noveldex or provirin would be optimal to keep the gyno away yet keep the majority of my receptors free to the juice. my cycle structure is as follows:
d-bol= 5tabs a day for six weeks
sust= 1cc a week for six weeks
equipose= 200mg a week for two weeks then 100mg for six weeks.
this cycle spans over a period of 10 weeks total.

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posted January 22, 2000 06:38 PM            

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I wouldn't use any nolvadex until you have to.

luke

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posted January 22, 2000 08:40 PM            

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That seems like some low dosages. You probably won't need it.

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posted January 22, 2000 10:31 PM            

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The dosages are pretty low so you probably won't need to take it, but if you wanted to take something during your cycle to keep estro down so that you can up your dosages use some proviron, 1-2 tabs per day!

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posted January 24, 2000 12:03 PM         

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i would not use nolvadex.
you are wasting your money buying steroids if you take nolvadex throughout your cycle. it renders a good portion of the androgen useless.

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posted January 24, 2000 12:43 PM            

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even for a first cycle the doses are too low. take 500mg/sust/wk, dbol at 25mg/day is ok (if it's your first) and i feel less than 300mg/eq/wk is a waste. you shouldn't need any nolvadex but have it just in case, and make sure you have clomid also. later.

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posted January 24, 2000 08:52 PM            

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Have it just in case but don't used until you think you need it.

Quenepo

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posted January 24, 2000 10:37 PM            

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SORRY WOULD RATHER TAKE CLOMID HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN NOLVA CAUSE GYNO!

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posted January 24, 2000 10:39 PM            

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Use the proviron only if you need to. It's better than nolva.

300

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posted January 25, 2000 12:54 AM            

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Man I should have put my boots on before I read through the crap written in this post. First off, gyno is no joke, The fact that nolvadex binds to the androgen receptor is utter bullshit, this also means that estrogen would bind to the androgen receptor. Estrogen receptors esp those near the chest responsible for gyno will accept nolvadex,clomid over the estrogen bond. If u want to be smart, take 20mg of nolvadex or 50mg of clomid per day, I prefer the latter, Clomid is very underatted as an antiestrogen. Proviron is NOT a good drug for an antiestrogen and is best saved for loosing water at the end of a cycle. Even if an antiestrogen hindered your gains by 5lbs? so what? Would u rather spend 3-5 grand on gyno surgery?

LP

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posted January 25, 2000 12:59 AM            

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Clomid is the way to go. Keeps test production going and acts as an antiestrogen.
clomid may cause distrubances in vision but they go away after use- tracers and the like-though no one seems to know why.
Maybe it is showing us how women see the world. hehehe.
well it seemed reasonable when I wrote it
but then again my vision is a little blurry right now.

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