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: : : I am wondering how many of you are actually aware of the potential of : : the legally available androgen androstenedione. Most of you have seen the info : : that was reported from the German patent for the stuff, if not here is a summary of it: : : 50mg taken orally increases plasma testosterone levels 40-83% above normal baseline : : levels. 100mg taken orally increases plasma testosterone levels 111-237% above normal : : baseline levels. The test. start to increase about 15 minutes after administration with : : a peak about 1 1/2 hours after. The effects last about 3 hours. Most of you should : : realize that these are very substancial increases which could result in dramatic : : gains in size and strength if taken properly. In my opinion it has to be administered : : similarly to Androil would which is about every 3-4 hours. The normal male : : produces about 6-10mg of testosterone in the testes per day. This means that : : per week about 60mg are produced. I think that you all know that by using 200mg : : of exogenous testosterone a week you can experience some signifigant gains. That is : : roughly a little over triple of the amount of test. that you would produce naturally. : : Since you can raise your test levels to almost triple their natural amounts through : : using androstenedione at about 100mg then it seems that you could experience gains : : similar to using 200mg of testosterone weekly LEGALLY. Just imagine if more that : : 100mg of androstenedione were used per dose. I have also done some checking around : : and it seems that if androstenedione was injected its effects would be much more potent. : : Also, androstenedione aromatizes into estrone in the body. This should not : : be a problem at reasonable dosages since estrone is a fairly weak estrogen BUT.. : : if 5-alpha-androstenedione (5AA) is used in conjunction with androstenedione it can : : cut down on the aromatization to estrone by 88%. This could increase the potency : : of the androstenedione dramatically. I do not think that 5AA is orally active : : so this option would only be possible if you are using androstenedione through injection. : : There is also a legal androgen called 19-norandrostenedione which is changed : : to nandrolone in the liver in the same manner that androstenedione is changed into : : testosterone. That means that there could possibly be a legal way to gain the : : effects of Durabolin. I am still checking on this one. It might be very expensive. : : I know of another legal androgen that is more powerful than either of the : : previously mentioned two but it is not orally active and would have to be injected. : : Is anyone interested in me posting more info about these compounds as : : obtain more info on them? : : *also, I wonder how long it will take the FDA to outlaw these drugs : : now that they know that bodybuilders gopt smart enough to try and use them? : Id like to hear . : Lil Rob

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