Posted by S3 on January 17, 1997 at 17:36:46:
In Reply to: To S3 - Re: Androstene posted by The Claw on January 17, 1997 at 15:46:55:
: S3, Interested in knowing you source for Androstene. With current FDA regulations,
: it may very well be possible for someone to derive a "supplement" that really works.
: Currently we have things like DHEA and Melatonin which are both powerful hormones
: being sold over the counter, so why not ? I personally cannot see the difference between selling DHEA over the counter and Testosterone.
: If Androstene has someone with Patrick Arnold's reputation is working
: on it, hell I wouldn't mind giving it a try. I would speculate however that if it did
: have a bodybuilding benefit and was hormonally based then the FDA will shut it
: down pretty quick.
: I would go on to say that if DHEA was ever proven to be of real benefit to
: bodybuilders (I am not saying it is, the jury is still way out on that) the same thing
: would occur, so you would expect suppliers of that non-prescription "Drug" to
: downplay any findings that area.
The distributor working with Pat on Androstene is OSMO
in San Francisco. 415-513-5528 talk to Stan- great guy.
The literature says that 50 mg causes a near 200% rise
in test levels within 90 minutes, with 100 mg nearly tripling
test levels. The androstene is converted to test by your liver,
not your testes, so there is potential for suppression of
your natural test output. OSMO will tell you that you should
only take it on lifting days about two hours before workout,
'so that the spike in test will fire you up, but so as not
to risk shutdown and testicular atrophy (also more cost
effective at $60 per bottle) . In an e-mail which
Pat was kind enough to take the time to respond to, he
informed me that you can take it throughout the day
to maintain consistently elevated test levels, but that
you could experience similar side effects to taking
test in that case. I'm going to take throughout the day
for a couple of weeks, but if I see any adverse side effects
have some Ipriflavone standing by to counter the aromatization,
which Pat tells me should even further spike my test levels
by fooling the axis into jumpstarting the testes, which in turn
will supplement the test my liver's turning the Androstene
into.
As I said in a previous post, I have not used any AS,
in over ten years, so the results should be interesting.
I'll keep everyone appraised of my progress.
Day 1
30 years old
6'2"
245 lbs.
15-16% bodyfat (yuch!)
Bench 365lbs.
Squat 405 lbs
Military 205 lbs
Wish me luck!
S3