Posted by E.A on January 08, 1997 at 03:57:58:
In Reply to: Re: Amazing cycle!!!!!!!!!! posted by moonface on January 07, 1997 at 13:47:09:
: : : You personally "guarantee" ALL my gains will be PERMANENT? Very impressive. Man I've tried to guarantee that for myself but it never works quite so well. I'll tell my body about your guarantee and see how if it listens. BTW at least half of the weight you'll gain on that will be water. That cycle=BLOAT CITY.
: : Ok, i told that to see if anyone would answer my question ( it's the only way i've found, excuse me ). So you say that the most gains will be water, what do you suggest to not let it happen? Do you think that instead of Sus 250 i use Deca? Do you have anything to say about that?
: Strong androgens (which turn to estrogen ((most)) will cause your body to hold water and you really can't do much about it. You can take a diuretic during your cycle, but most would advise against it as it is unnecessary and potentially dangerous. You may puff up on Sus and Anadrol, but you'll also grow like a weed. The only point being that you'll lose alot of strength and bodyweight when your done as you lose the water. Yes, water seems to make you stronger too. Deca on the otherhand is much less androgenic and semms to not hold the water that the Tests & Anadrol do. When it's all said and done though, which would cause better growth? The strong androgens of course. You just have to prepair youself for the drastic weight loss when you come off and remind youself it's mostly water you lost. As you'll gain 10 the first week or two you'll lose the 10 the first week or two out. Most of the muscle will remain, but you really can't keep it ALL and you certainly can't keep it ALL FOREVER. When looking at the week 1&2 dosages you had, I just had to take a step back. 3 shots of sus and 3 tabs of Anadrol probably won't work any better than 2 shots of sus and 1 tab of Anadrol. You'll just hold more water, be more grouchy and crash harder when it's done. I personally don't agree with loading up to keep receptors open. Anecdotal evidence actually leads me to believe otherwise.
Finally, something intelligent posted. I tend to agree with the stack that the original poster suggested. Start high and taper down. He wants to start VERY high which, believe it or not, is the best thing to do. Receptors will respond (upregulate) and will respond much more positively to the lowered dosages. So I disagree with Moonface on this. It's too bad he doesn't have something less androgenic to taper with. With such an androgenic cycle, he needs something like deca or primo to taper with. Why? Because the newly created receptors will have a high affinity for the more-anabolic/less-androgenic drugs. Drugs like primo and deca were specifically manufactured to have a very high affinity for the steroid receptors, while giving few of the androgen related side effects. Everyone seems to be so grounded in the old theories. Experiment! What have you got to lose?
-E.A