Re: Brief counterfit "listing", taken from posts on this and other boards
Posted by APF on March 28, 1997 at 20:46:36:
In Reply to: To Those in The Know..... posted by CAL on March 28, 1997 at 18:54:58:
Here's part of a file I've been working on recently. It's [obviously] not formatted/organized yet.
[paste file: "Fakes?"]
: I'm sorry to say your friend has fallen for the biggest dealer scam known to users. Every dealer has some
"russian d-bol", usually the kind in blister packs with black or blue writing on them. It seems your friends guy
didn't even have to go to that much trouble. He might have got lucky and got some repackaged Bionabol, but
chances are what he got are ephedrine tabs. Take a couple and if you feel super strong, they're real, if you start
shaking, they're ephedrine.
the only 'real' russian d-bol that you will find is in foil push out pack with black rubber bands around them.
The picture can be seen in the World anabolic review. there is some speculation that a few batches are real d-bol
and that a few are just methyltestosterone.
By the sounds of it you got scammed. Do the tabs have a cross on one side? if yes they are probably ephedrine
HCL. If they don't they might be methyltest or just sugar pills.
: Are there any legit Anapolon-50 around, possibly in boxes of 20? Also, on a
: time cycle of Bionabol, would 3-4 a day be enough to minimize side effects and
: still get good results. How long 6 or 8 weeks? What is a good amount of
: Parabolan to use for a beginner or should it be used after some experience?
: What are the chances of becoming sterile on only a few light cycles per year.
Yes, real ANAPOLON comes from Turkey, but is very expensive
It works fine though, but is harsh on your liver!
It comes in 20 tabs/blisters with a cardboard box around it.
Mail me for more info. I can send you the pics of the packages!
1 to 4 tabs is the dosage i took. I'm currently using
Bionabol and it works after a couple of days.
Parabolan will be manufactured this year in France
I am considering purchasing some juice from a good source of mine. He has
: these orals call Stenox, then under that it says fluoximesterona. The box is red
: white and grray. It is Atlantis company. It is obviously Mexican. Inside
: there is a pop out sheet of twenty tabs. they are white with a line scored
: on the top. Through the bubble sheet they look yellow. Can you guys give me
: some info on what you think this is. Price? Quality? Experice?
: Thanks in advance!!
Stenox is Halotestin (Fluoxymesterone)and the Mexican version is made by Atlantis Laboratories.
Tablets should be 2.5 mg and the usually dosage is between 20-30 mg per day. It is one of the more
toxic steroids - liver toxicity, gyno, water retention, irritability are very possible while on
Halotestin. You should limit use to 4 - 6 weeks. I've heard of Stenox - box of 20 tabs going for
anywhere between $20 to $50 bucks on the black market. Hope this helps!
: is it a fake??
: Humabol by Reckit & Colman, White and blue packaging, lot#024, manufactured: 95/07, Exp:
This is most definately real!! Very good stuff, I've been impressed with how well this stuff is
compared to other Methandrostenolones.
I friend of mine has 20 tab foil blisters of what is supposed to be Anadrol. Small white tabs with a
score down the middle of one side as the only marking. The foil has black ink that says
ANAPOLON TABLET [all caps] Oksimetolon 50mg and an egg shaped logo that says Ai. One end
of the package is stamped; 07 19 01. Are these for real?! This is part of his first cycle. He has been
on Sust 250 [one 250mg redy-jet per week] for three full weeks with little growth so far. He wants
to stack the Anadrol [if thats what it is] for about two weeks then back off on sust. How long will
sust take to kick in, anyway? I tryed the search engine, but it did not answer all my questions.
Thanks in advance for any and all help! ...Wannabe
Congratulations! You described to a tee exactly what
Anadrol (Anapolon) by Syntax from Turkey should look
like. Be carefull and follow Hulkster's advice in the
post below but other than that, enjoy and grow!
: I have been taking 5mg 3 times daily for 4 weeks
: with no results. has anyone herd of polish d-bol from
: polsa jelnia
You are taking Metanabol (Polish Dianabol) it is made by Jelfa Jelenia-Gora.
It is legit not fake (orange strips, 20 tabs a strip).
If you took only 3 tabs a day it's to small amount (this is only 15 mg
I don't know any drug that could do miracles at such as dose). You need
at least 6 tabs a day and for sure will notice nice gains. The dosage
could be up to 10 tabs a day.
I've used metanabol many times always having good results.
Wish you huge gains.
I got some sostenon from Mougios about a year ago and it is made by Organon Karachi. It has
yellow writting printed directly on the glass. It has a white ring around the neck. It does hurt like a
son of a bitch for at least 4 days after injection. I seemed to gain strength and size but I was also
taking other gear at the same time. I did the freezer test and it just stayed the same pale yellow color
with no precipitation like other people said would happen. Has anyone ever used these from
In Reply to: Sostenon Real of Fake posted by xxx on March 05, 1997 at 21:45:26:
Hey xxx, I'm sure that a lot of the gains you received were because of the Sustanon. It took my
bench up to 450 lbs. and my squat up to 650 lbs! Did the Sus come in a little holder of three? I
remember thinking that the amp top was fake looking because of the white rounded top, but there is
no denying the fact that my strength shot up while I was using Mougious Sus.
YOUR LUCKY TRIPLE X,
P.S.-DO NOT SEND ANYMORE MONEY TO THE GREECE GOVERNMENT (MOUGIOUS)!
: Sorry called Stano-Pronabol
: Need help, is Stano-Probolan real. It comes in a push through strip
: of 10 @ 2mg / tab, pink in colour, PBL imprinted on tablet, purple
: colouring on front of package.
Sounds real to me your lucky to find some its rare.
: : I have a laurabolin that has a label that is different than the one in WAR. The expiration date is
ABR 98 on it. I have had one a year ago with an exp of 99 and it looked like the one in WAR. Has
the laurabolin label been changed in the last 5 years or what. It tastes the same.
: I have the same bottle, does it have green and red
: stripes instead of two solid colors? It is real!
It is the same as the one you described.
: I just received 10packs of 20tab-blister packs of Winstrol 2mg tabs. The tabs are pink, about haf
the size of an aspirin, with a W printed on them. The packaging has printed on the back -
WINSTROL stanozolol by Zambon (these are from Spain so some stuff appears in spanish). With a
lote # of K-7 and some other number of #848820 on the back. SECOND, I also have 10packs of
10tab-blister packs of DBOL. They are light blue (about a third the size of an aspirin) and have the
name METHANDRO-STENOLON 5mg printed on the back with a number stamped on them of
E-80895. Is the stuff I go real
Sounds pretty legit to me, although I can't vouch for the d-bol... Winstrol isn't counterfeited as
much as others, so I would have a high level of confidence in that.
In Reply to: Re: Is this stuff real? posted by Rugger on March 07, 1997 at 14:52:18:
I'd say the D-bol is real, I got the same thing and gained 6 pounds in 3 weeks at only 3 tabs a day
with no real huge change in diet or working out. The gains slip real fast though. I hope you are easy
going, that stuff can really cause some severe rage quick. Just think calm for the next month while
In Reply to: New Laurabolin 50 bottle or is it fake???? posted by curious on March 11, 1997 at
: supposed to be from Mex.
: the box is white with 4 horizontal stripes on lower of front of box,
: 3 GREEN lines followed by 1 RED line.
: under that is the name Intervet with an oval circle around it.
: bottle is brown glass with PURPLE brek off top, and has 1 GREEN line,
: with 1 RED line under it, followed by intervet in an oval.
: side of bottle has ml markings fro 10 up to 50ml .
: STAMPED on the bottle and box is>>>>
: Lote No.: M-6730
: DIC. 99
: Fecha de caducidad:
: the label is not really all that great just a glued on label that will not peal
: off that easily.
: any info please is this a new bottle or id it fake.
: it is NOT pictured in the WAR
its real. Have the same thing.
: : : : : : A friend of mine just came back from Mexico and was telling me how hard it is to find
Deca. The only thing he found that he thought was real was a 2mL bottle with a blue cap on top. He
said they wanted $10.00 for just one bottle. Is this stuff legit or is it just another expensive fakey.
My friend bought Norandren 50 from Laboratorios Brovel. After reading some of the other
messages I now know that this stuff really isn't all that great to say the least. Does anyone know of
any legit brands of Deca being produced and sold in any of the towns in Mexico.
: : : : : : He also told me that he could not find any real Anavar in TJ or Encinada. Is there any legit
Anavar available anywhere in Mexico.
: : : : : : What is a good dosage of the Norandren 50 stacked with REFORVIT-B? I've been told to
take 200-400mg of Deca a week, so should I take the same amount of Norandren 50?
: : : : : Norandren is good deca and produces great results for the price...Its just slightly weaker than
regular pharmaceutical deca...I would recommend the Norandren because its rarely faked and very
cheap...200-400 mg/wk would produce great results...As far as Anavar being produced in Mexico,
it isnt and if you somehow find some Anavar(Oxandrolone) in Mexico its probably fake...
: : : : The Anavar my friend has seen from Mexico has all been
: : : : fake. I have posted similar post earlier and got a
: : : : reply from a guy that has alot of good info posted
: : : : here named moonface. Moonface indicated the likely
: : : : fakes on my friend's Mexico list as follows:
: : : : D-ball 100 tabs
: : : : Testosterone 100 tabs 25mg
: : : : Anavar 100 tabs
: : : : Oxymetholone 50mg 100 tabs
: : : : Stanozolol 100 tabs 2mg
: : : : Primobolan 30 tabs 50 mg
: : : : anapolon 50 tabs 50 mg
: : : : Stromba 90 tabs 5mg
: : : : Andriol 30 tabs 40 mg
: : : : Be warrry of any 100tab bottles
: : : : of ANYTHING in Mexico. Moonface has given some good
: : : : posts and I believe the guy knows what he's talking
: : : : about. Also try the search engine about fakes.
: : : The most reputable DECA available in Mexico is the real Organon pre-loads. They are only
50mg though, but REALLY 50 mg. Brovel is more like 30-35 mg. All other DECA is fake.
: : What about laurabolin. Is there still 100cc vials being made. What would I expect to pay down
: Laurabolin should still be availible in vet supply stores, but only in 50cc vials. I bought some there
about 1.5 years ago, and it was cheap!!!
: I paid $40 per 50cc vial. Yes, $40.00. I just about crapped my pants when they told me the price.
I only bought 2 of them, because I was afraid of getting busted for trafficking, rather than
possession if I got busted(which I didn't). Me and my friend both used 200-400mg per week, and
absolutely loved it. But, to each their own.
: A friend has a small amount of dianabol tabs from Thialand. They are pentoctagonal, pink, and
indented on one side like WAR says. Since he didn't get origional pacakaging was wondering if
there are any fakes that match the description. Also have a chance to pick up some Primo S 25mg
tabs. Have never had anything but the 2mg before. WAR says there are no fakes of primo tabs.
Does anyone know of any?
: Thnaks Guys
The primo you have is problaby from germany.
Does the writing say:
If so, I guess it's real.
In Reply to: Dianabol and Primo tabs FAKE??? posted by Need To Know on January 11, 1997 at
Those pink tabs you're talking about should be
Anabol (metha...) and not Dianabol (methandrostenolone).
I did heard of the Primo 25mg tabs, white in
colour and big, from Germany.
: : I was offered some deca recently in Tijuana and want to know if you guys
: : think it's fake. It was sold in 2 ml vials, 200mg/ml, and according to
: : the label was made by Organon and was from lot 292698A. It was in a brown
: : glass bottle with a blue plastic cap that said "flip off" on the top. Does
: : this sound like it's fake?
: This stuff was in mm2krap about 3 or more months ago, they said it was legit, but I wouldn't bet
Fake. The only real Organon Deca you'll find in MX are pre-loads. 2 per box. 50mg each.
In Reply to: Fake Deca? posted by Alan on January 10, 1997 at 00:02:35:
I've seen that Deca around here before...it's fake! Was it manufactured from Organon in W.Orange
NJ? Does the label peel off easily? This is one of the better looking fakes out there. Look closely,
the labels are laser printed and you can actually see the slight streaks in the colour with a magnifying
In Reply to: Re: parabolan from France posted by mark on December 19, 1996 at 21:45:29:
: yes, its being produced by negma!
: carefull though, there is a lot of fakes out there.
: the chances are rare to find the real thing!
: any question, just e-mail me
There are alot of fakes, but if you know what to look at you'll be able to spot a real one. First, all
parabolan comes in a box which is affixed with a sticker. Real and fake boxes look almost identical,
so it is a bit tricky. The sticker on a real box will be indented to break apart in 3 pieces, the fake
simply is printed with a dotted line (no actual cut in the sticker). You'll also find 3 stripes on your
box (red, green, blue). The fake has these lines too, but at the terminus (bottom) all 3 lines are NOT
level with each other. The real box has these lines perfectly level. Other than that, you may have to
use it to tell if it's real. These fakes are first class (packaging anyway).
In Reply to: Sus 250 lot# 98?? posted by MuscleHead on February 12, 1997 at 21:47:46:
: Does anyone know if Sus 250 (1cc pre load) lot # 98 is liget? I remember a posting about a month
ago saying that a fake lot # 93 with detached needles have been known to be fake. This lot # 98 also
has detached needles, but all other markings look to be legit.
Bodybuilers have complained of fakes going around in Texas. I think the lot was 97 though.
The mexican equipoise is real (maxigan) but there is fakes, no surprise
there. The fake Maxigan has a line across the little metal piece you peel
off on the cap. the real maxigan has a smooth metal piece. The writing on
the maxigan has very clear writing with no smears. All else fails it is
around $80.00 not 40. The $40 bottles are fake. shop at the vets. Just
learned about this, hope it helps.
In Reply to: Re: Someone HELP! How can one identify real or fake sost? - Hey Crankman! posted
by Vinnie on January 19, 1997 at 21:13:44:
: : What kind of Sust?
: : Is it Russian made in Calcutta?
: : If so, the fake ones have rounded corners on the label on the amps. The real ones have square
: It's Russian made in Calcutta by (INFAR).
: Square corners on label
: White label
: Blue print
: Looks exactly like photo in WAR
: Lot #252209
: Dates: Oct 95', Sep 99
: The dates seem odd. I though the month should be Oct-Oct. Not Oct-Sept.
: Can or should the label be able to be pulled off in one piece?
: Should it taste or smell like something?
: Smells likw heavy oil (not cooking oil of any sort)
: Has a sort of bitter and chemically taste to it (not like amonia or bleach or stuff like that)
Chances are that they are legit. I've never seen any fakes. I heard the fakes have rounded corners.
I have seen often have crooked labels, and peel of easily, but usually not in one piece.
: The WAR states that Spanish Primo from Schering is in brown glass amps with red writing
: The amps that I have seen lately are brown glass with green writing and a blue dot.
: From what I can understand I beleive that this is the new packaging.
: Amps look great and if it is fake someone spent a fortune on the packaging (tear of barcode
: and three color printing with a lot number stamped not printed)
: Can anyone confirm or deny.
Alot of counterfeiters put a fortune into their fakes. Three color printing, stamped lot number and a
tear off barcode tell you nothing about legitimacy. I'd like to give you an exact answer, but I'm
afraid I'd need to thoroughly examine the box.
: I was wondering if anybody has used any testosterone
: cypionate made by Schein. A friend of bought 2, 10cc
: vials/200mg/ml, they have blue flip-tops, vials are dark
: brown, LOT#95E760 which appears to be stamped on,
: expiration date is 6-98(did come in package w/insert-but he
: no longer has). At the time of purchase supplier was
: selling tons of schein cyp & enanthate for $100/vial. I
: know it is almost impossible to spot fakes, so all I am
: wondering is if anybody has had good results with this
: product. I have checked the search engine for
: counterfeits, cypionate and Schein but couldn't find what I
: was looking for.
: Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
Try and peel the label off the bottle. All these american fakes seem to have labels which will come
off in 1 piece and without much difficulty. Real american drugs have labels which cannot be
removed short of using a razor blade and an hour of tedious work.
In Reply to: RUSSIAN D-BOL posted by CAL on March 11, 1997 at 15:01:10:
RUSSIAN D-BOL COMES IN A SILVER BLISTER
PACK OF 10 PER BLISTER. ON THE BACK
SIDE IS RUSSIAN CYRILLIC WRITTEN IN BLUE.
In Reply to: Re: RUSSIAN D-BOL posted by PA on March 11, 1997 at 15:34:05:
It doesn't matter what it looks like. I've seen the
most legit looking stuff imaginable. Even Boris Yeltsin
would've been proud of it. Anyways, looked authentic
but totally dissapointing. Zero results. Bogus stuff.
Nadda. Russian d-bol that are real are very rare and
even if they pass the visual inspection, you'll have
to try them to see if they're the real deal.
: If you get the roids staight from the veterinarian shop in mexico are they
: more than likely real? concerned about reforvit-b and test200. i know to
: test reforvit with water and wait for crystals. test200 is made in mexico
: for "laboratorios tornel, SA". blue, white and red label, says
: "testosterone 200" on label under a circle with a black object in the
: middle of it. 200mg/ml 10ml. has "107ene2000" stamped on it. doesn't
: look like the brovel ones. any help would be appreciated. thanks
I'd stay away from the testosterone 200 unless it was made by brovel. It is most likely a fake.
> Primoteston Depot 250 mg. Does this sound legit.
> Brownish amp .White mark (score) around neck.
> Bluish lettering on amp that says:
> 250 mg I.M.
> Reg. No. 47334 SSA
> SCHERING MEXICANA,
> S.A. DE C.V.
> Vertically peinted on one side is Lote No. 21103
> NO BOX!
> Did however have a foil/plastic contaiiner that I suppose would keep it
> from bouncing around in the box.
> The plastic fits the form of the amp execept at the neck, where there is
> a bubble perpendicular to the amp.
> On back of foil the same Product infomation is printed diagonally in a
> repeated pattern.
This product is legitimate, congratulations! your one of the lucky few.
- Re: Brief counterfit "listing", taken from posts on this and other boards Nathan Potvin 19:46:14 10/04/98
- Re: Brief counterfit "listing", taken from posts on this and other boards ROCK 02:55:03 3/29/97