A||||39||Back Up||bikinimom website|||||| Z||000000||Back Up||01-28-2001||09:26 PM||wideback@ziplip.com||I just checked out you website... I then had to ask my husband if he had seen many pics. He said a couple. I told him to check out your site because you are fabulous!!!!!||209.254.82.52||reg|| Z||000001||AJD||01-29-2001||12:05 AM||||whats the address? i'd like to check it out too!!!

aj ||152.163.197.57||reg|| Z||000002||JuicyGirl||01-29-2001||01:31 AM||musclemaster@hushmail.com||OMG! I just took a look at it for the first time and you are sooo adorable BM! I love your poses and your cute everyday activity pics. You are quite beautiful indeed.

You have a great website! Thanks for creating it.||24.30.132.78||reg|| Z||000003||bikinimom||01-29-2001||10:44 AM||bikinimom@elitefitness.com||Thank U so much for your kind words of praise....there are still a few wrinkles that the programmers are promising will be "ironed out" shortly (Where have I heard that before?).

I have a lot of ideas but I've never done this before and I'm not quite sure what direction I want to head in...so any input would be greatly appreciated - positive or negative, I need to know what is "wrong" too!

For the first month it will be free, then it will be pay (small fee...Hey, gotta put the kiddies through college somehow LOL) and NO, THERE WILL BE NO PORN! - I don't need the $ THAT BAD.

So enjoy this preview and drop me a line if you have the time. THANX!

Also, if you guys have the time I'd appreciate you shooting an email over to the people over at www.beautifitgym.com and let them know that you guys want ME to host their first live webcast!! THANX!!

Here is a copy of an email they sent me :

Here's the deal. We're looking for a totally hot fitness or
strength model to host our very first Live Web Cast scheduled
next month. And we want you to help us decide who it's going
to be. We can't guarantee that we'll get the one you want,
but we'll sure try.

Have you got a suggestion? One fitness model and one strength
model? A whole bunch of models? Have you got an idea for our
very first web cast? A work out? A posing session? Something
more wild? Come-on! Let us know your suggestions at
info@beautifitgym.com. And let's get the year started off with
a bang!

And thanks again for making BeautifitGym.Com the fastest growing
entertainment site of its type!


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[This message has been edited by bikinimom (edited January 29, 2001).]||24.4.252.80||reg|| Z||000004||blueyedkowgrl||01-29-2001||05:55 PM||mwood51@optonline.net||hey bikinimom, i sent the link to my husband and he told me that if i dress in a bikini to do chores he might help! should i believe him? ;-) LOL all kidding aside you look phenomonal!!!!!!You are an inspiration to women everywhere and to your kids i'm sure. keep up the good work.
p.s I LOVE your legs!!!||24.190.176.108||reg|| Z||000007||Daeo||01-30-2001||01:55 AM||daeo@elitefitness.com||Why would you think it's a joke? Don't like looking at a beautiful women. She gets a boner..oops I mean..a thumbs up from me..

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[This message has been edited by Daeo (edited January 30, 2001).]||206.74.46.15||reg|| Z||000008||crash3837||01-30-2001||04:30 AM||crash3837@yahoo.com||WOW!!! BM,,, your a mom. All I can say is if all women looked like that after having children it would be a one hell of a pregnant world.||63.16.23.21||reg|| Z||000009||MrsStrengthmonster||01-30-2001||10:51 AM||mrsstrengthmonster@hotmail.com||You look amazing and a real inspiration to the rest of us chicks who work hard at the gym. Pleeeease can I have your recipe for success???||62.6.112.69||reg|| Z||000010||FitFossil||01-30-2001||03:08 PM||||Bikinimom,

Just paid a visit to your site and am very impressed and inspired. GREAT JOB!||152.42.20.50||reg|| Z||000011||riptchick||01-30-2001||03:53 PM||riptchick@operamail.com||BMOM, you know how I feel about your work....really really nice work. You're beautiful on the inside and out.||24.247.50.194||reg|| Z||000012||new@gettinbig||01-30-2001||04:09 PM||j1fit1@hotmail.com||VERY nice Bmom Your work looks GREAT!!! You have some really nice shots. Its nice to see mothers pursuing careers in fitness and accomplishing their goals. Much props, and you should be ver PROUD of yourself ||64.12.102.158||reg|| Z||000013||WenchofNazir||01-31-2001||02:22 AM||||Only praise allowed here or you will be deleted. This board has become a real joke!
Log on to "BMom's Elite Fitness".||204.60.51.34||reg|| Z||000014||Hardtail||01-31-2001||02:31 AM||||Wench,
You just found out that the hard way that only praise for BMom is allowed. She will delete your post if you question her "talent". Let George know how you feel. She is making the women's board a boring showcase.||204.60.51.34||reg|| Z||000015||~*~OneKikAssWoman~*~||01-31-2001||06:39 AM||onekikasswoman@hotmail.com||haha||24.156.213.31||reg|| Z||000016||bikinimom||01-31-2001||09:17 AM||bikinimom@elitefitness.com||I did not delete any posts on this thread. The only posts that I delete are those that are source posts or downright degrading towards women - not me.

The only THREAD that I have EVER deleted was a thread THAT I ORIGINATED which is within the power off ALL ELITE FITNESS MEMBERS. The only reason that particular thread deleted was because ADMITTTEDLY, though I did respond negatively to what I percieved was a negative attack by a "stranger" it had progressed to a point that was negative TO ALL women - ESPECIALLY JUST US MOTHERS ,there was not a shred of anything positive remaining in the thread. So I believed it would be in this board's best interest to delete it.

Feel free to bash me U all wish. I've been called a LOT WORSE by a LOT BETTER PEOPLE, but if personal insults are what you are interested in than might I suggest the CHAT BOARD?......or email?

Wench and Hardtail - please I URGE U to email GEORGE or CHRIS at elite and tell them how U REALLY feel!

HAVE A NICE DAY!

PS - In the case that yall didn't notice, might I point out to you that I DID NOT ORIGINATE THIS THREAD?!

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....beauty knows no pain.||24.4.252.72||reg|| Z||000017||WarLobo||01-31-2001||10:44 AM||warlobo@operamail.com||I deleted it... You got a problem with it drop me an e-mail and we can discuss it.

But before you do, take a sec and do a search for the "Killer Posts first edition" where in I posted up some basic ground rules way before you, Bmom, and half of you folks were ever around.

And I would also be very interested in seeing any of your constructive posts Wench.

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Lobo||209.239.227.203||reg|| Z||000018||Daeo||01-31-2001||12:20 PM||daeo@elitefitness.com||You know what's the real joke WenchofNazir..
When a women builds her body up to look so amazing after having 3 children and then is put down by some jealous person. Bikinimom is an inspiration to many people on these boards. Please keep the negative comments to yourself. Or better yet, post some of your own pics so we can see what you look like...

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You seem to forget that I was "there" for that post that you deleted. It, in no way, progressed to a bashing of "mother's" by me or anyone else who responded. I, too, am a mother.
I feel if someone wants to grand stand, they need to do it on there own site and not a public site which is supposed to be a forum.
Ever wonder why most people don't stick around this board?
I have E mailed George. I hope he reins in certain folks on this board.
Jealous? I don't think so. I don't need the constant attention that this woman craves and begs for. As I said in the past, she needs a shrink not a discussion board.
WLobo, you are cool and have a good head. She may be a friend of yours but she is ruining this board. ||204.60.28.208||reg|| Z||000020||Texas Guns||01-31-2001||12:32 PM||texas_guns@hotmail.com||Whoa!!! Back to the original topic at hand.....Bikinimom, I am truly inspired and my favorite shot is the one of you and your girls. The expression on your face shows how much pride you take in being a mom. And to contribute to your website, if I may, we would like to hear how your started and the ins and outs of the fitness modeling industry. Very interested in this myself or just shoot me an email for now and give me a little information.

Yes, you have inspired me again and I even went and put my bikini on layaway for the summer. Now that is a goal to obtain!!!! So I will be sending you pics soon for you to post. I love the idea of feature a different mom every month or so and giving a little background on their life. Love it, love it, love it.

And a little criticism, your too damn good!!! haha My husband would love for me to cook in my bikini!! No wonder you have four children!! hahaha :0

Mrs TG

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||216.89.50.132||reg|| Z||000021||bikinimom||01-31-2001||12:51 PM||bikinimom@elitefitness.com||Brother Daeo - thank you for your kind words but there is not need to turn this into a tug-o-war. PS - I've got 4 kids, don't forget the baby! tee-hee

Well Hardtail - I have forgotten NOTHING....I know exactly who you are (U R the "stripper - furniture, that is) who I made some disparaging, though unfounded comments about when you made unconstructive and harsh cheap shots directed at me. Which is fine. I should've just either A)ignored it or B)let you explain yourself and hang yourself w/own words. But that is neither here nor there.

For the record:

1. OBVIOUSLY DID NOT SEE THE POSTS ON THAT PERTICULAR THREAD THAT WERE MADE BY SOME OTHER MEMBERS THAT DID PUT DOWN ALL MOTHERS EVERYWHERE INCLUDING YOU. But we could go on and on about this and it would serve no useful purpose.

2. You have no email listed so I can NOT pursue this privately. If you wish to discuss this in this forum I will be glad to divulge the info you seek.

3. I have GEORGE'S permission to promote MY WEB SITE as many others do - ROUTINELY - heck, many are COMPETING DISCUSSION BOARDS!

4. AGAIN, I point out to you, I WAS NOT THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS THREAD. I merely responded to the question of the other board members.

5. THE ONLY ELITE BOARD THAT I HAVE PROMOTED MY WEBSITE ON IS THE CHAT BOARD.

Please do NOT open your mouth until you are in possession of all the facts.

Remember girlfriend, "It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Class dissmissed, HAVE A NICE DAY!

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[This message has been edited by bikinimom (edited January 31, 2001).]||24.4.252.64||reg|| Z||000022||Daeo||01-31-2001||11:40 PM||daeo@elitefitness.com||Sorry about not counting one bikinimom Although it supports my argument even better though. I have no idea why some people have such resentment towards you. TONS of people on this board admire you and drool(I'm included) over you on this board. Forget about the haters...

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The Other Board.||206.74.46.15||reg|| Z||000023||JuicyGirl||02-01-2001||02:07 AM||musclemaster@hushmail.com||Looks like another case of bad PMS. Some of you people need to relax a little - JEEZ!! ||24.30.132.78||reg|| Z||000024||bikinimom||02-01-2001||06:51 AM||bikinimom@elitefitness.com||U guys are too generous, I'll take yall as my therapy ANY OLE DAY!!!! hehe

Mrs TG - I heard through the grapevine that you are quite the looker (I'm not just blowin' air up underneath that fringed skirt of yours neither....I heard this several months ago from one of the other mods who doesn't post on this particular board.) and I'd be happy to help you in any way that I can.

Yes, I do want to give out basic modeling info, the proper way to get into it, how to avoid some of the pitfalls, etc.

The site is very basic as of yet and unfortunately, because I am working w/programmers I don't have all the control I'd like. I'm going to give it a shot w/them and then if things don't head in a direction that pleases me, I will pull the plug and take my business elsewhere.

All kidding aside, this is a pet project of mine and I take it very seriously. I am so sick and tired of the whole "plastic fuck doll who can be broken in two in bed" - bullshit! I am not saying that I am all that, however, I am hoping that if enough people see enough images and get to know enough strong and beautiful women who are smart, witty, dedicated, etc.....public perceptions will begin to change. That is one of the reasons for my "Mother of the Month" feature. There is soooooooooo many beautiful women with downright amazing physiques just waiting to shine!....Geeze, how would I choose? Uh-oh another can of worms!....but one that I will gladly open. I guess I'd have to have some sort of on-line voting or something of the sort....but I am getting ahead of myself.

The site is up, but it is still full of mistakes, ie the email doesn't work, there is missing text, etc - please bear w/me! If I could wrap my fingers around the programmers little necks........I WOULD! but then again, they'd be dead and then where would I be?! tee-hee

Haters come w/the territory and it is all good.

And for all of those who are wondering...No, I don't really walk around the house all day in a bikini....THONG PANTIES ONLY!

Also - shoot an email to info@beautifitgym.com (my site is thru a webpartnering program w/them) and tell them that you want me (li'l ole bikinimom) to host their first live web cast! THANK U!

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[This message has been edited by bikinimom (edited February 01, 2001).]||24.4.252.80||reg|| Z||000025||Flexx||02-02-2001||10:33 AM||flexx27@hotmail.com||I'm impressed BM, If you got it flaunt it. You've obviously worked hard and are now able to enjoy the results. ||63.253.152.5||reg|| Z||000026||fitnessfreak||02-02-2001||03:18 PM||fitness1@hushmail.com||I dont post on the womens board much but I just want to applaud you and your hard work, in the gym and on your site for all of us to see. Your definitely an insparation to us all and the only people who dont appreciate this are just jealous!

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||168.190.201.92||reg|| Z||000027||new@gettinbig||02-02-2001||03:58 PM||j1fit1@hotmail.com||Jealousy and Envy.....they seem to get the best of some people!! Your always gonna have that when you are a beautiful person, inside and out and have a strong beautiful fit body. People hate what they dont have
Keep doing what your doing Bmom, you are inspiration to many people here and you deserve all that you have worked hard for, to be in shape is not a simple task!||152.163.197.47||reg|| Z||000028||JayeLynn||02-02-2001||04:00 PM||greyvulf@hotmail.com||Interesting thread, but I'm rather curious. I certainly haven't been around here forever: maybe about a year. I kinda remember the thread in question and know from experience that BMom has toned down her reactions a lot since the beginning. (Kudos girl) But at the same time, I do notice some trends. The positive feedback is not to worst by far.

I'm pretty much a live and let live person anymore. I learned through the school of hard knocks that we don't all share the same tastes and ideals. We don't all come from the same set of circumstances either. Hardtail, are you the same gal that did the online pose-off with BMom? If you are (and even if you're not), I was quite impressed.

I was the stocky little tomboy born into a family of barbie dolls. A failure from the get-go if you know what I mean. I certainly shamed them by being born with a handicap: that's why Mom (my mom) ran away. That was all a long time ago, and I'm no longer the family 'misfit'. I absolutely LOVE meaty women: I'd personnaly take a size 9 over a size 4 anyday. But you know, not everyone is as blessed genetically as I am.

If I'm remembering anything that happened all those months ago, then I feel that your (Hardtail) lack of interaction is costing me a valuable resource. What exactly is bugging you about the direction of the Women's board? I'd certainly love to hear/see some threads on your topics.

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just one humble existentialist caught up in a Machiavellian herd.||129.80.22.140||reg|| Z||000029||bikinimom||02-02-2001||05:00 PM||bikinimom@elitefitness.com||Yes, Jayelynn your memory serves you correctly.

I did go overboard as I had admitted SEVERAL times on that very same thread.....yet few people bothered to read those parts where I had admitted to my poor handling of that situation. They only harped on and on about the same comments that I made which I apologized for over and over again.

I was in the process of removing only MY pcitures from that silly little lighthearted, tongue-in-cheek thread that I did begin which turned waaaaaaaaaaaay ugly (for which I accepted responsibility several times over for MY PART) when I saw a few posts, ONE IN PARTICULAR made by another board member, that I found to be so ugly and offensive.....as MANY others would have I am sure.....that I decided to delete the entire thread (as was within my power, as it is within the power of ALL board members to delete their own threads). I felt that the thread no longer offered anyone anything valuable AT ALL.

If there was any other way.....I would have let the thread stand, in full.

So I would also like to know, also Hardtail - WHAT IS YOUR BEEF? State your case. It's OK, no one will hang you out to dry.

We are all civilized here (for the most part) and if you don't agree with me - THAT IS YOUR RIGHT....as is the right of many others. I have agreed to disagree w/MANY on this and the other elite boards by either stating my case or exercising my right to scroll on.

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....beauty knows no pain.||24.4.252.80||reg|| Z||000030||skydancer||02-02-2001||05:23 PM||skydancer43@hotmail.com||Actually JL I was thinking the same thing the other day...I saw Hardtails pics and she is wonderfully developed. I would like to get her input her too on a regular basis but she only pops up when Bmom ticks her off for some reason.

Hardtail I'd like to see your input on things other than Bmom.

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Patience is a bitter plant, but it has sweet fruit.
Well done is better than well said.||66.42.122.100||reg|| Z||000031||Model1||02-02-2001||06:59 PM||ajamodel@hotmail.com||I agree we need more women with knowledge and experience in weighttraining on this board. I'm not a novice fitness competitor/lifter so I don't need diet advice or pep talks. I need fitnesschicks or any other veteran competitor/lifter advice on improving lagging bodyparts, how do they get ripped for a competition, the dilemma of whether to use AS or not, etc , etc.

A lot of us women are intermediates(bikini mom included) and I know I need someone with more experience and knowledge or I'm not taking their advice....

This board is slow moving and the women(fitness chick) with great advice creep in and out. Hardtail if you have any advice or suggestions, why don't you post them? I for one would love to hear them. Especially if you indeed do have a great physique!

I would post more but I've been busy with my son, modeling and getting ready for the Arnold Classic/Expo. I find I post more when I'm competing (I'm semi-dieting now so I can look half way decent at the Expo~smile!)

Are there any others attending the Expo/Classic?||24.188.220.191||reg|| Z||000032||ulter||02-02-2001||08:04 PM||larry@thewebloom.com||I emailed you my ideas.

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[This message has been edited by TEXASAMM (edited February 02, 2001).]||216.50.248.52||reg|| Z||000034||Wombat||02-03-2001||12:45 AM||||Bikinimom- I just saw your pics on www.beautifitgym.com-You look good,-You certainly have your work cut out for you against those women-Good luck and keep training hard!||24.4.254.75||reg|| Z||000035||MS||02-03-2001||12:54 AM||retropump@hotmail.com||Well where have I been??? I just read this post for the first time, and I also would like to have more input from Hardtail around here. I don't really remember the thread that Hardtail/Bikinimom had a head-on in, but I wish Hardtail didn't avoid posting on this site because I feel she as lots of valuable info to offer us. IT'S ALL GOOD, even when we sometimes (or always) disagree with other members. The important thing on this board is to share our knowledge, opinions and experiences so women can make the most informed choice possible about their health and fitness. Of course, it's better if we can share this info in a civil and polite manner, but occassionally tempers flare. At least it's not a full KO match like on the Anabolic Discussion Board!

BTW, BMom, you (IMHO) should be an inpiration to all moms, all women, all bodybuilders, and all people who strive to improve themselves.||210.54.162.51||reg|| Z||000036||Gettinhard||02-03-2001||07:43 AM||gettinhard74@hotmail.com||you are simply one of the sexiest woman i have ever seen! Your husband is a lucky man.

Great pics!||63.28.144.168||reg|| Z||000037||dirtyratt||02-05-2001||11:31 AM||twodirtyrats@hotmail.com||BM, i must say that you have had an incredible change in the way your body looks since i saw the pic of you on the beach a while ago. good job on all your hard work. i just have one question and it is not meant to be rude. why is it that you feel this need to post a picture of yourself after every post? Are you happy with the fact that you are posting pictures of yourself vacuuming in a bikini, spread out over your mini van, etc. your professional pics are great, but the others are less tasteful. the last thing i would want my mom to do is post pics of her laying over her car for everyone to check out her ass. i posted my pictures once for opinions, but took them off when i got the advice i needed to move on. just have been wondering why you do the things you do with your pictures. you look good, don't get me wrong, but geez...it is kinda getting dumb! again, i am not trying to be rude at all, just wondering.
...dr||24.129.174.154||reg|| Z||000038||Trinity13||02-05-2001||12:16 PM||trinity1113@hotmail.com||Hardtail should post more often. She definitely has a lot of knowledge to share. Back a few months ago when I was just starting to get serious about training. I asked Hardtail for advice on diet. She was very nice and helped me out. She is the person responsible for my body fat going down 3% in a matter of three weeks. I never thought it would be so easy to lose FAT. But she really knows her S**T. Her physique speaks for itself.

I agree with Fitness1 there are a lot of us here that are in the middle ground and need a knowledgable more experienced person to help us through the rough spots.

As mentioned before we have to AGREE to disagree.

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You can not accomplish what your mind can not conceive.||209.214.4.198||reg|| Z||000039||Crash||02-09-2001||01:49 AM||||BM, I've never seen a mini van look so sexy. You can adopt me if you ever need a 22 year old sex slave. I can cook, clean, and wash the dishes. hahaha I need to go take a break. This computer desk is cutting off my circulation. lol

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||209.250.35.167||reg|| Z||000040||tnheygirl||02-09-2001||08:16 AM||tnheygirl@operamail.com||Bmom on a lighter note,the website is excellent but I have two critiques 1. Chunk the vaccum pict it's corny and tell your photo guy to stop doing that thing with your hair. Get it out of your face I think it takes away from the picture. If you want that sexy look how about a wet look with the hair?heehee
Sorry coming from a person in the salon industry! Good picts though as always and I can see your work is paying off on the legs. I know at one time you were working for more definition and size I believe.

[This message has been edited by tnheygirl (edited February 09, 2001).]||63.59.96.208||reg|| Z||000041||airtyme||02-09-2001||08:21 AM||airtyme@ausi.com||Bikinimom,

I would really like to use some of your pictures for my new site I am creating. Click on it below and check it out. It is still under construction, so keep that in mind.

Let me know!!!

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