A||||7||AJD||HELP! :) Anavar/Deca or Deca/Primo cycle?|||||| Z||000000||AJD||01-19-2001||08:55 PM||||Has anyone ever done any of these types of cycles? All I've ever done is a 7 week 50-75mg every 5 days of Deca cycle... Had great results but am ready to start a new cycle and want LOTS of muscle growth!!! I really don't want the water retention but either way with the Deca I'll have it.

I think I'd use dosages this time ranging from 75mgs-100mgs every 7 days stacked with either the Anavar or Primo, but am not sure which would be better and at what dosages because of mixing it with the Deca.

SOMEONE please HELP! I really need your input from anyone who has done these types of cycles. (with minimal sides of course...)

Right now I'm 5'4 145-147lbs, approx 13% bodyfat. Would love to drop some bodyfat but gain as much size as possible. Weight isn't an issue right now. I don't care what I weigh as long as I'm huge and lean. Ya know?

please help!

AJ

||205.188.199.174||reg|| Z||000001||WarLobo||01-20-2001||01:13 AM||warlobo@operamail.com||Humm... anything else you want? Arnold tickets perhaps? New car?

Hehehe, relax a moment and define what your primary goal is for this next cycle. And don't worry to much about stacking. No need for you right now, unless your thinking about doing some test and anavar....

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Lobo||152.163.197.211||reg|| Z||000002||AJD||01-20-2001||07:57 AM||||OK primary goal. Win my first show in Sept, then Oct, Nov. want to qualify to Nationals. Have to pack on some huge mass and would like to stay pretty lean so I am not killing myself during my precontest diet time.

AJ ||205.188.198.33||reg|| Z||000003||WarLobo||01-20-2001||08:15 AM||warlobo@operamail.com||Ok, that's better. So we have PLENTY of time to get you there. I assume then, that this cycle will be for mass, mass, and little more mass - right?

If your not overly worried about the water gain, sounds like you and deca get along great. Why mess with success? We can extend this cycle more than 7 weeks. Go for at least 12. And that WILL put more muscle on yas. Even go longer!

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Lobo||152.163.207.66||reg|| Z||000004||AJD||01-20-2001||12:04 PM||||Yeah I LOVE the deca, water weight sucks, but the growth from it is AMAZING!!! But wouldn't my gains be even better if I stacked it?!? Actually I'm thinking more towards the Anavar because its an oral and I really really don't feel like injecting myself twice every week if I did the primo also, unless it would be really worth it? I have no experience with Primo or Anavar, just going by what I've heard on this board and from others I know...

Anavar sound good? I'm sure the tabs I'll get are the 2.5mgs each, so what would I do? start with 1 tab twice a day so it would be 5mgs per day, or would I do 2 tabs twice a day, for 10? Any ideas? Suggestions?

Thanks again!

AJ||205.188.196.46||reg|| Z||000005||riptchick||01-20-2001||01:22 PM||riptchick@operamail.com||I did a light cycle of anavar this summer. 10mgs a day for six wks.(My one and only cycle to date) It worked wonders for muscle preservation as I was dieting, I felt rock hard and recouperation time was awesome; however, I don't think that I would use it for major mass gains. Nice solid strength gains, I even had some pretty good vascularity considering I don't have a whole lotta muscle maturity. Absolutely no water retention--actually no sides at all- zip, nada. Trust me when I say I am no expert...but if it was me, I would reserve use of the anavar for when you are really cutting and maybe extend the deca cycle (like Warlobo said). Kinda if it ain't broke don't fix it mentality. Just my .02 I'm not an expert and don't play one on tv either so... :P||24.247.50.194||reg|| Z||000007||AJD||01-20-2001||09:28 PM||||Sooo... You all think it would be good if I went for 12 weeks on Deca starting at 75mgs (thats where I ended last time) then going up to 100 or w/e depending on how my body reacts? Also, stacking it with 10mgs of Anavar every day and would I go up to 15/20mgs half way thru?

Let me know what you think, and everyone THANK YOU SO MUCH for the replies. I really really appreciate it.

I'm gonna post before pics before I start my cycle in a few weeks. I'll keep u all updated!

AJ ||205.188.200.38||reg|| Z||000008||F1hybrid||01-21-2001||07:29 AM||badknees@freedom.net||Damn, 15-20 mg/d of OX, you must be wealthy.

Personally, I think 100 mg of Deca a week and 10 mg/d of OX for 12 weeks should do it from start to finish, perhaps taper over an additional 2-3 weeks at the end. If you train smart (don't overtrain) and eat right, that should be plenty. Do some baseline measurements and have someone who can do skinfolds correctly measure you along with the pics.

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