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Z||000000||Iron God||12-08-2000||04:29 PM||irongod@hushmail.com||            NEW RULE CHANGES FOR NPC BODYBUILDING & FITNESS & THE<BR>                           CREATION OF A NEW DIVISION - FIGURE<BR> <BR>            By Jim Manion - NPC President<BR> <BR>            At our November 9, 2000 NPC Board Of Governor's meeting held in New York City, several changes<BR>            were approved.<BR> <BR>            NPC FIGURE DIVISION:<BR>            A new division of the NPC, FIGURE is approved for 2001. This division will give our athletes additional<BR>            opportunity to compete. NPC Figure will consist of two (2) rounds and NOT require a routine round.<BR>            The two (2) piece swimsuit round will be held at pre-judging and the one (1) piece swimsuit round at<BR>            the evening finals. The First Annual 2001 NPC National Figure Championships, which will be held on<BR>            August 10 - 11, 2001, at the 2001 NPC Team Universe Bodybuilding and Fitness Championships in<BR>            New York, New York. <BR> <BR>            NPC MEN'S & WOMEN'S BODYBUILDING: <BR>            For men's and women's bodybuilding the following changes will be in effect immediately. We are all<BR>            aware that the time between prejudging and evening finals can change who is selected for a class<BR>            winner. As a result, the following changes have been approved for All National Level, (NPC Junior USA,<BR>            NPC Junior National, NPC USA, NPC Team Universe, NPC All Armed Forces & NPC National<BR>            Bodybuilding Championships), and National Qualifying contests. At the evening performance, the top<BR>            five (5) in each weight class will perform their posing routine and using the mandatory poses, be<BR>            compared and rescored. The prejudging score and the evening final scores will be combined and the<BR>            top five (5) placements will be determined for each class at that time. The prejudging scores and the<BR>            evening scores each count for 50% of the final score. Ties will be broken by relative placement as they<BR>            have been in the past. All trophies are to be presented at the end of the evening performance of each<BR>            category, (men's and women's bodybuilding, fitness and figure), not as each division within the<BR>            category is completed. For example, men's bantamweight trophies would not be presented until after<BR>            the men's super heavyweight class is completed.<BR> <BR>            NPC WOMEN'S FITNESS:<BR>            For women's fitness, the following changes are also in effect immediately. Fitness events will have the<BR>            two (2) piece swimsuit and fitness routine rounds at prejudging. At the evening performance ONLY the<BR>            top five (5) in each height class will again perform the routine round and the one (1) piece swimsuit<BR>            round. Those scores combined with the prejudging scores will determine the final placement. If you<BR>            have any other questions concerning these matters, contact your NPC district chairperson, or call the<BR>            NPC National Office.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> ||209.236.133.222||reg||
Z||000001||Iron God||12-08-2000||04:37 PM||irongod@hushmail.com||That new Figure division is a God send for alot of the ladies who don't want to BBuild or do silly flips on hard wood floors and risk serious injury.<BR>I think this is REALLY gonna take OFF<P><BR>IG <P>||209.236.133.222||reg||
Z||000002||F1hybrid||12-08-2000||05:32 PM||phatboy@columbus.rr.com||It's a good move. I'm tired of watching some good physiques place last because they can't contort their spine into a pretzel, hop and flip their way across the floor on two hands with their arms wrapped around their legs, then peer out under their ass while balancing on one hand and smile at the judges. <P>F1||65.24.124.217||reg||
Z||000003||bikinimom||12-08-2000||05:33 PM||bikinimom@hotmail.com||AMEN!!!<P>Like I said before.  It is a helluva a lot easier to click-click-click across the stage at 11 or 12%bf than it is to flex with all of your being and still look "pretty" at 6-8%.<P>Although, you don't have to wear those silly acrylic lucite fmsm heels at 6-8%.<P>Decisions, decisions......what's a girl to do?<P>------------------<BR>     <IMG SRC="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1077401&a=7955886&p=34724303&Sequence=0&res=high"> WWW.IMPACT-PHOTOGRAPHY.COM       <BR>     <IMG SRC="http://www.elitefitness.com/members/bigrickrock1/pics/friedmom1.gif">        <BR>....beauty knows no pain.||24.4.252.80||reg||
Z||000004||Monster||12-08-2000||07:59 PM||monster@musclemail.com||I agree it will take off, but I think that the NPC hosting such an event is WRONG! It is basically a beauty pageant. We will not be seeing athletic physiques, we will see swimsuit models... basically T&A (hey, Im not knocking it!). I just feel that the NPC is not a showcase for this type of thing, it should be left to the Hawiian Tropic and Venus swimwear competitions. The NPC has always been synonomous with ATHLETIC CONDITIONING, be it fitness or bodybuilding. <BR>I guess when the judging criteria is revealed I may be proven wrong, but I dont think the National "PHYSIQUE" Committiee should be in the soft 'n' smooth butts 'n' boobs show business.<BR>At least they could break off a new orginization for it, I dont have anything against any of these types of shows, but I feel its an insult to me as a serious bodybuilder, and to my sisters in iron who are serious bodybuilders or fitness competitors, for a swimsuit model to recieve an NPC title...<P>------------------<BR>It takes two to lie, Marge. One to lie and one to believe it.<P>         <IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/d_ante/bodybyorganon.gif">    <BR>Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy||24.4.252.151||reg||
Z||000005||bikinimom||12-08-2000||08:36 PM||bikinimom@hotmail.com||Hey Monster, from what I understand the NPC judging criteria for physique will be similar to fitness....only not fitness routine.<P>I competed in many swimwear competitions back in the day and I hardly ever made the finals because I was too muscular (before I even grew any real muscles).  If I had a dime for every time I got beat out by chicks with cottage cheese on their asses and big beer bellies I could afford to buy enough juice to make my hubby the next Mr O (well maybe not hehe).<P>So, I for one am looking forward to this.  True, I must confess that I fear I will lose some of the respect I recieved as a bber.  But as a commercial fitness model I can not afford to get much bigger and I will probably lose out on work when I lean down for bbing comps in 2001 whereas if I compete in Physique, there will be no need for me to get any bigger (legs maybe) and I will not be too lean to get modeling work.<P>------------------<BR>     <IMG SRC="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1077401&a=7955886&p=34724303&Sequence=0&res=high"> WWW.IMPACT-PHOTOGRAPHY.COM       <BR>     <IMG SRC="http://www.elitefitness.com/members/bigrickrock1/pics/friedmom1.gif">        <BR>....beauty knows no pain.||24.4.252.80||reg||
Z||000006||Monster||12-08-2000||09:12 PM||monster@musclemail.com||Im not against it per se... I'll readily admit I perfer a more muscular look to a smoother one (though both ARE appealing), I just hope they do stick with the fitness guidlines, sans the routines. <BR>Im basically just against turning an athletic federation into the new Hawiian Tropic style "NPC Boobies and Butts Extravaganza!".<P>(Mabye there will be nude posing? Ya know, just so I can more honestly judge the womens physiques... yeah, thats the ticket... symmetry and such... yeah, yeah.... thats it...)||24.4.252.151||reg||
Z||000007||bikinimom||12-09-2000||01:32 PM||bikinimom@hotmail.com||Monster, you crack me up!   <IMG SRC="http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"><P>------------------<BR>     <IMG SRC="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1077401&a=7955886&p=34724303&Sequence=0&res=high"> WWW.IMPACT-PHOTOGRAPHY.COM       <BR>     <IMG SRC="http://www.elitefitness.com/members/bigrickrock1/pics/friedmom1.gif">        <BR>....beauty knows no pain.||24.4.252.72||reg||
Z||000008||Monster||12-09-2000||10:30 PM||monster@musclemail.com||...I wish it was a joke... but its a serious chemical imbalance in my brain! At times I cant control the perversions that spew forth from my mouth. Like a sexual Touretts Syndrome...<P>------------------<BR>It takes two to lie, Marge. One to lie and one to believe it.<P>          <IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/d_ante/pics/monstergear.gif">     <BR>Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy||24.4.252.128||reg||
Z||000009||MS||12-11-2000||12:05 AM||retropump@hotmail.com||The figure class has been a part of the NZFBB for several years now, and part of the NABBA for even more years.  It is very much more popular than fitness.  In fact, fitness is virtually dead in the water now.  And I can assure you Monster that there is nothing soft about the top competitors.  I think you're gonna like the look a lot.  Just think Fitness Chick if you want an idea of the look. Both men and women spectators like the look, though it doesn't draw the 'ooohs and aaaahs' of the BB women.||202.180.64.90||reg||
Z||000010||Monster||12-11-2000||07:23 AM||monster@musclemail.com||as long as they dont start Mens Fitness! Those guys are "creepy".||24.4.252.150||reg||
Z||000011||Fitnes1||12-11-2000||09:58 AM||angelac@utk.edu||Thanks Iron God for posting the info.  I'm w/ Bikinimom on this one, too.  "What's a girl to do."  haha  I agree w/ Monster.  I hope the title doesn't go to some girl who's just a fitness model.  There is a difference between a fitness model & fitness competitor esp. when it comes to physique, etc., etc.  I'm sure there will be MANY opinions on this topic.  It's good to know what's coming.  Thanks again!<P>------------------<BR> <A HREF="http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=get_album&ID_Community=AngelasWonderfulLife&ID_Topic=1&ViewType=W" TARGET=_blank>http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=get_album&ID_Community=AngelasWonderfulLife&ID_Topic=1&ViewType=W</A> ||128.169.15.228||reg||
Z||000012||Iron God||12-11-2000||11:04 AM||irongod@hushmail.com||I wonder if a sling-shot bikini constitutes a 1 piece swim suit.<P>IG||192.127.94.7||reg||
Z||000013||bikinimom||12-11-2000||12:47 PM||bikinimom@hotmail.com||Silly boy!   <IMG SRC="http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/smile.gif"><P>------------------<BR>     <IMG SRC="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1077401&a=7955886&p=34724303&Sequence=0&res=high"> WWW.IMPACT-PHOTOGRAPHY.COM       <BR>     <IMG SRC="http://www.elitefitness.com/members/bigrickrock1/pics/friedmom1.gif">        <BR>....beauty knows no pain.||24.4.252.80||reg||
Z||000014||MS||12-11-2000||01:21 PM||retropump@hotmail.com||Oh my god!  Those fitness men....PUKE.  But I'm very fond of the new men's class introduced by NABBA a few years ago-men's athletic.  The men's equivalent of the new female figure class.  Let's just say those guys are as nice to drool over as the traditional fitness chicks are for the guys.  What I find interesting about both of these' intermediate' classes is that they've taken most of the competition away from the fitness and BB classes.  Seems nobody (male or female) wants to put in the effort to get big and shredded, but in many ways it's a good thing because it draws people to compete who would have never considered it before.  The down side is that many good bodybuilders are 'down sizing' so they can compete in what is perceived as an easier class.  This leaves very few open BB competitors. Oh well, progress!?||139.80.64.4||reg||