....beauty knows no pain.||24.4.252.80||reg|| Z||000002||Iron God||10-16-2000||03:30 PM||irongod@hushmail.com||Bmom,
What has it done for you? I would like my butt to poke out further and my hamstrings to become fuller. Just for b-mom and monster!haha So please let me know what I may expect.
So far I am only able to go 24 min.
thanks
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Z||000001||bikinimom||10-16-2000||01:53 PM||bikinimom@hotmail.com||Are you talking about the apparatus that you push down w/your feet or the one where the steps actually move up so as to simulate actually walking up stairs?
Personally I use both, the stepper thingie (I'm just sssssooooooooooo technical LOL) and the one where you are actually climbing stairs and hands down the stair climbing KICKS ASS.....God, I HATE THAT THING. I go for min 30 to max 45 on a level 6 and let me tell you I got perspiration originating from parts of my body that I didn't even think had sweat glands!
I don't really know if this has any real effect on "shaping" muscles per say. On cardio days what activity I choose depends on mood, classes offered (spin and kick-boxing ONLY), kids' schedule and mine, etc, where I am as far as what my goal at the time is ie - maintaining cardio strength, contest prep or photos.
I manipulate my weight training regimine to work on shaping and strengthening. Although I'm not saying that the type of cardio you do won't necessarily positively/adversely affect shape/size of muscles.
The exercise I have found to be most helpful in giving me that nice round ghetto-booty is dead lifts. And lunges (I have done smith machine up till now, but now I will try doing them w/ez curl bar stepping up onto platform so as to avoid hyperextending knees - What do yall think of this?) have helped me with my glute-hamstring tie-ins tremendously!!!!
I hope this helps.
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Z||000002||Iron God||10-16-2000||03:30 PM||irongod@hushmail.com||Bmom,
If your gym allows it (has the space) do HEAVY walking lunges for sets of 12 each leg.
Until the day comes when you standing upright can rest a beer can on your butt and have it not fall off. Then you will be ready to take on the world.. Grasshopper..
Only a true master can do this on both pecs and glutes at the same time.
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Z||000003||Jeff_rys||10-16-2000||03:57 PM||jeff_rys@yahoo.com||TN, for all i know the stair stepper will give you great calves. Butt and hamstrings will not be altered the way you want it.
Right now i do 3x20 min a week, BUT i used to do it 6 hours a week for 6 months (2 years ago, herniated disk, so no weight training). This means i did 50 miles a week for a total of 1285 miles. No butt getting harder, no hamstrings getting ticker. But he i am a man and for you it could make a difference.
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Don't look back, life is too short||213.224.83.166||reg|| Z||000004||tnheygirl||10-16-2000||04:17 PM||tnheygirl@ziplip.com||I just despise dead lifts and lunges! I mean you people have seen my legs isn't that enough weight to carry around?
When I am on the stair stepper(the one you have to push down on) I feel it the most in my quads and my quads get an amazing pump from it. I then feel it in my butt. It burns!
The reason I ask my sister got on a stairmill kick and her flat flat butt got very fluffy.||204.31.105.145||reg||
Z||000005||MUSTANG_18||10-16-2000||08:18 PM||bgtpennington@dccnet.com||I USE THE STAIR STEPPER AND BIKE(ALTERNATING EVERY 2 WEEKS) THE STEPPER WORKS ME ALOT HARDER AND MY CALVES GET A GOOD WORKOUT TO 
M18||216.13.237.90||reg|| Z||000006||Brandi||10-16-2000||08:29 PM||||I too have a love/hate relationship with the Step Mill (rotating stair case). This thing has definitely whipped my glutes and legs into great shape, not to mention a great cardio workout. ||24.19.82.152||reg|| Z||000007||bikinimom||10-16-2000||10:32 PM||bikinimom@hotmail.com||Brotha IG - believe it or not I used to do walking lunges w/my girls on my shoulders. I would start w/the smallest and walk back and force across the aerobics stuido (quite large) and go back to childcare and come back out w/the next biggest until I had the last. That was usually four sets of these bad boys and I was DYING! Until the out-of-shape pudgy little head trainer came running in saying it was not allowed for insurance purposes.
HHHHhhhhhhmmmmmmm, about a year before this when they were takin' an extra pretty penny out of the members' pockets to offer the "kid fit" classes, then it was OK. But they discontinued this program sadly because the gym was not making enough money off of the members w/children to justify the classes.
Do how heavy would yall say? I find dumbbells cumbersome as they swing so would ez bar be ok?
Also I got some pics today and I realize that my butt and hams (legs in general) photograph too small in relation to my upper body soooooo - I guess I gotta hit 'em HARDER!
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Z||000008||WonderWoman||10-16-2000||10:39 PM||wonderwoman@thewirehouse.com||For glutes that will stop traffic there is one solution...SQUAT. Ass to the floor. Another option, walking lunges or DEEEEP leg presses. Yes the stair master and step mill will give you some benefit. Particularly if your stride is LOOONG and the resistance is cranked up to gee wiz. I would be willing to bet however that progressive resistance exercises (squats, lunges, etc.) will get you there the quickest. I do understand that there are those of us who are working around injury, lack of flexibility, equipment access etc. Try this, running hills or stairs with a weighted backpack. Stadium stairs or parking garages are ideal for this. For weight, take that backpack thats gathering dust in your attic/garage, throw a few books in it and get moving (interval type training, 3 sprints to the top,every other stair, recover, repeat for max of 20 mins). The combo of both cardio+resistance can't be beat. Your legs and ass will hate you at first but when swimsuit season rolls around, WATCH THE FUCK OUT!!! MHO.
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Z||000009||Artemis||10-17-2000||03:09 PM||huntress@operamail.com||Bump for WW!! Full squats, deadlifts, and ham curls, -then run intervals on the hills. Aim to do ham-curls with your bodyweight. Save the stairclimber for those days when you'd freeze to death outside.
Or have your training partner get in a car, and you try to push it around on the parking lot. Eat, shower, and take a nap afterwards.||131.104.100.161||reg||
Z||000010||WarLobo||10-17-2000||03:13 PM||warlobo@operamail.com||Long Lost Arti!!! Good thing you posted as I was about to start posting up some extream rumors about why you disapeared 
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Z||000011||WonderWoman||10-17-2000||07:37 PM||wonderwoman@thewirehouse.com||I almost plumb forgot about the car push option. Good thinking Artemis. If you think you know pain, try pushing a car around the block. Better yet try pushing up a"slight" incline. When I say slight I mean slight. Make sure you have a buddy to help drag you back home when it's all over.
BRING THE PAIN!!!
WW||166.93.76.67||reg||
Z||000012||MS||10-17-2000||08:18 PM||mad.scientist55@hushmail.com||Good going Gals. I realize not everyone has access to nice hills to play on, but there really is nothing as good as walking/sprinting/cycling up and down hills. I know most people underestimate the importance of downhill work in developing a balanced physique. There isn't any piece of equipment that can simulate walking or running down hills or stairs with or without weight on. It's essentially a continuous negative exercise. ALL my cardio is done on the hills, unless there's black ice on the roads. In that case I go to work early and do several 'laps' up and down our 9 flights of stairs. Go down the stairs 2-3 at a time without using the handrails, and sprint up the stairs. Car pushing is also superb for glute development, but best done where your neighbors won't see you! If all else fails, outright flat windsprints are also good for glutes and calves. And of course you need to do the squats/lunges/deads etc... ||139.80.64.4||reg||
Z||000013||Artemis||10-19-2000||10:22 AM||huntress@operamail.com||Could also try sprinting back and forth across a field covered in hip-deep, dense snow. Especially right after freezing rain put a hard shell overtop. This really seemed to target glutes and lower back. It works (too) well - be careful not to get stranded out there from exhaustion.
For WARLobo: I've been in the library, and on the phone to put together this biotech start-up. And there is this securities exam I'm due to write in a couple of months... Is the truth crazier than your fiction? 
||131.104.100.137||reg|| Z||000014||WarLobo||10-19-2000||10:40 AM||warlobo@operamail.com||Biotech, COOL! Gene splicing - genetic McDonalds - drive up window no less, show me the menu.... Can I order some muscle fibers??
Mark my words, the Genetic revolution is coming in a big way. It will make the technology age look like the buggy and carriage of yester year.
All I have to say is you better let us know when your going public
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