A||||13||WARLOC||HELP/ANYONE??|||||| Z||000000||WARLOC||10-04-2000||09:17 AM||warloc@hushmail.com||IM CURRENTLY TRAINING MY WIFE. SHE HASNT HAD A JOB SEINCE OUR SON WAS BORN 3 1/2 YEARS AGO. SHE HAS NEVER WORKED OUT BEFORE NOW. 5 WEEKS AGO SHE WAS HINTING THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE GYM. SO I SIGNED HER UP AND STARTED TAKING HER. THEN I REALIZED WHAT I WAS IN FOR, BECAUSE SHE HAD NEVER TOUCHED A WEIGHT BEFORE. SHE IS 5'10" STARTING WEIGHT 5 WEEKS AGO WAS 275 NOW 260. SHE HAS MADE GREAT PROGRESS SO FAR. BUT IM LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT.

WEIGHT TRAINING-
MON- CHEST, SHOULDERS, TRI'S
TUES- CARDIO, ABS
WED- BACK, BI'S
THURS- CARDIO, ABS
FRI- LEGS, CALV'S
SAT- CARDIO, ABS
SUN- OFF

RIGHT NOW SHE IS ON THE BODY FOR LIFE DIET, SO SHE CAN LEARN HOW TO EAT RIGHT. SHE SAYS THAT SHE REALLY LIKES GOING TO THE GYM WITH ME, IF I ONLY KNEW THAT SOONER........
I DONT HAVE HER ON A THERMOGENIC YET. AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING BY WEIGHT NOT BF.

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"PAIN IS TEMPORARY, PRIDE LASTS FOREVER"
WARLOC||168.178.74.96||reg|| Z||000001||Iron God||10-04-2000||10:41 AM||irongod@hushmail.com||It's just gonna take TIME!!

How much weight is she gonna lose?

Don't try to rush it, at this point she just needs to do something active and keep at it no matter what. Also remember to keep her diet clean ( and take in enough protein) and for her to drink plenty of water.

I know this advice sounds really general but at this point in her training she just needs the very basics.


Good Luck

IG||192.127.94.7||reg|| Z||000002||WARLOC||10-04-2000||10:46 AM||warloc@hushmail.com||THANK YOU GOD

SHE IS DRINKING ATLEAST 1 GALLON OF WATER A DAY. CUT OUT THE SODA POP. EATING CLEAN. SH WANTS TO GET BELOW 160. BUT IT IS PRETTY HARD TO PICK A LONG TERM GOAL WEIGHT RIGHT NOW. SO WE JUST SET A MONTHLY GOAL FOR HER.

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"PAIN IS TEMPORARY, PRIDE LASTS FOREVER"
WARLOC||168.178.74.96||reg|| Z||000003||WarLobo||10-04-2000||10:52 AM||warlobo@operamail.com||I agree with the bascics right now. And I also like the monthly goal. But do ONE MORE thing - TAKE SOME PHOTOS! This will help you to help her more than anything. Women it seems, really like to see that progress in a photo. Maybe cause they read all them glamor mags

Dig up that sugar thread of mine. And way to go about getting her off the soda - it is liquid dead in a can.

One more thing, get her on this board!

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LAte

Lobo||152.163.207.59||reg|| Z||000004||WARLOC||10-04-2000||11:27 AM||warloc@hushmail.com||LOBO- THANX BRO
I WOULD LOVE TO GET HER ON THIS BOARD, BUT WE DONT HAVE A COMP AT HOME, I JUST USE THE ONE AT WORK.

ILL HAVE TO TAKE SOME PICS OF HER, THATS A GREAT IDEA.||168.178.74.96||reg|| Z||000005||JayeLynn||10-04-2000||11:50 AM||greyvulf@hotmail.com||My other half has been in the weight room now for the last year, weighing in now at about 235. The struggles I have had to deal with ....
1. Total lack of understanding food and diet. Like, I tried teaching her about balancing her meals and I think that it has actually taken the full year to get her to start reading labels. and,...if it isn't big enough to be considered a 'meal' then she wouldn't count it in her overall calories. And she doesn't understand the impact: "I'm not cheating".
2. She doesn't get that same high from the burn that I do, so workout intensity is some cruel punishment that she just will not impose upon herself. She'll show up at the gym regularly and she's there to work, but she won't push herself beyond the comfort zones unless I'm there pushing her. I'm the bad guy, and believe me, I get some pretty dirty looks on those days.
3. Ditto with Lobo on the pictures. Someone that out of shape is going to develop a lot of muscle quickly....which throws off the scales. Where I can see changes, she looks at the scale and thinks chocolate fudge sundae.
4. Change up the routine often. Try circuit training periodically. Show her different ways to do the same exercise, etc. My girl gets bored after 4-6 weeks of the same thing.
5. Start Cooking. You can do wonders for her understanding of food by creating a delicious meal composed of all the right ingredients/ratios. ...to say nothing for what it will do for her psyche to be catered to a bit. There is nothing more depressing than the idea that you're going to have to live on plain oatmeal for the rest of your life (well, you know what I mean). I think that this is where most people decide to fail a diet.

Thanks for asking: I needed to be reminded

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There is no measure to the benefits of patience and humility ... damn my patience is running thin.||129.80.22.140||reg|| Z||000006||WARLOC||10-04-2000||12:09 PM||warloc@hushmail.com||JAYELYNN-I HAVE HER WRITTING EVERYTHING DOWN THAT SHE EATS(EVEN IF IT IS A SPOONFULL)AND SHE HAS DONE IT FAITHFULLY.
RIGHT NOW I CHANGED MY WORKOUT UP TO MATCH HERS SO I CAN SHOW HER THE ROPES. BUT IN DECEMBER ILL BE GOING FOR SIZE AGAIN.
I PLAN ON CHANGING UP HER WORKOUT EVERY 4-6 WEEKS.
ACTUELLY I COOK ALOT. BUT EVEN WHEN SHE COOKS NOW, IT IS JUST AS I HAVE OUTLINED.
THANK YOU

LOBO- WHAT AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE ON SUGAR. MAN YOU ARE JUST FULL OF GREAT KNOLEDGE....||168.178.74.96||reg|| Z||000007||Kaizen||10-05-2000||02:59 PM||ka1zen@hushmail.com||Hey Warloc-

I'm right with your wife on this one..Dropped 52# since Feb and actually wish I had some good pictures of me from then!! It's all diet figure out her BMRb and go from there..Once I did that I found that I adjusted my diet to better suit my levels of wrk and ret and the fat peeled away and teh muscle packed on...JayeLynn...way to go girl!! It is really hard to keep it up with a significant other who doesn't have the same motivation...brava!!!

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Omnia Praeclara
tam difficilia
Quam rara sunt

Follow the path of the unsafe, independent thinker. Expose your ideas to danger of controversy. Speak your mind and fear less the label of 'crack pot' than the stigma of conformity." - Thomas J. Watson||204.89.159.101||reg|| Z||000008||JayeLynn||10-05-2000||03:34 PM||greyvulf@hotmail.com||I actually got some good news this morning.

A couple of months ago, I read and article (well, it was really an add) in the news paper about a couple of body builders gone professional trainer who had developed a supplement to help overweight people shed pounds. Their philosophy is that your body will not allow weight loss if you are chemically imbalanced. So their mix of vit & min with other things like chromium picolinate and such, in addition to a well defined diet of 5 small meals/day (with a simple exercise regimine of course), would correct this imbalance and people who cannot otherwise lose weight ....lose weight. Well anyway, I was pretty skeptical but nonetheless desperate after making little to no progress over the last year so I turned her on to the article. She jumped on it and placed her order.

She started taking the pills a week ago, but didn't actually start doing the diet until today (following my big lecture yesterday). She called me when she got home from the gym this morning happy to announce that she has dropped 7#!

WooHoo!

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There is no measure to the benefits of patience and humility ... damn my patience is running thin.||129.80.22.140||reg|| Z||000009||Kaizen||10-05-2000||03:46 PM||ka1zen@hushmail.com||Allright!! That's great!
A chunk of it is probably water but don't tell her that!!!! Have you done any BF analysis with her? It would be interesting to see her lean body mass change....I just broke 165# at 5'4" this week it's a long road but busting hump will get me where I used to be...I got tested in march and I was 215# and 39%BF yuck!!! I'm going to go get retested next month...I'm working with a trainer who says I'm the strongest woman he's ever worked with... without AAS.... Little does he know I'm going to start a winny cycle... I'm hoping to get stronger bigger and leaner... ||204.89.159.101||reg|| Z||000010||WARLOC||10-06-2000||09:26 AM||warloc@hushmail.com||THANK YOU GIRLS, YOUR A GREAT INSPIRATION TO ME AND IM SURE YOU WILL BE A GREAT INSPIRATION TO MY WIFE TOO. KEEP ME POSTED ON YOUR PROGRESS.

KAIZEN- WHAT KIND OF WORKOUT ARE YOU DOING? WHAT DOES YOUR DIET LOOK LIKE??

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WARLOC||168.178.73.101||reg|| Z||000011||JayeLynn||10-18-2000||12:28 PM||greyvulf@hotmail.com||Hey! The new diet is working. As of yesterday, she broke 230 (229.?) for the first time in years!!!!! which just goes to show that your body won't burn fat if your chemestry is fucked up.

woohoo!

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There is no measure to the benefits of patience and humility ... damn my patience is running thin.||129.80.22.140||reg|| Z||000012||WarLobo||10-18-2000||01:08 PM||warlobo@operamail.com||Cool

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LAte

Lobo||209.239.227.203||reg|| Z||000013||tnheygirl||10-18-2000||01:28 PM||tnheygirl@ziplip.com||Kaizen- I had no idea you had lost that much.
That is amazing and I know it takes some major inner strength to get to the point of getting off your ass and doing it. Just wanted to tell you how impressed I am. ||204.31.105.233||reg||