A||||5||Kaizen||PCOS and AS|||||| Z||000000||Kaizen||07-26-2000||11:14 PM||kaizen1968@planetout.com||Hey all,

I've tried getting through the search but it is apparently broken and i just wanted to know if anyone hear has any thoughts or experience on/with AS and Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome...basically what it means is I have higher levels of testosterone anyway and my cycles are screwy and it results in basically all the same side effects that AS give...My gyn put me on birth control to get around that and I'm considering a winny cycle. Doing my research before I go there... any docs out there with any advice?||209.245.103.82||reg|| Z||000001||WarLobo||07-27-2000||11:52 AM||warlobo@operamail.com||Please explain why you want to do a cycle when you already have a "naturally" occurring high test level? If you go 'on' your M. cycle will almost always get messed up regardless of the BC pills. Why not get off the pill, workout, eat solid foods and grow? Seems like a sensible first step.

MS, Art, am I missing something here?

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Lobo||12.10.120.15||reg|| Z||000002||Artemis||07-27-2000||02:14 PM||huntress@operamail.com|| Warlobo: no, you're not missing much. Just getting my thoughts together as to which literature references I should list. There is one or two concerns I'll bring up soon.||131.104.100.120||reg|| Z||000003||Kaizen||07-27-2000||02:55 PM||kaizen1968@planetout.com||The test levels aren't so high as to make me build mass more just annoying in terms of body hair and voice a bit deeper and the BC is more to make me regular. I'm eating well and working out daily one body part per session but I've recently had a hard time with stripping fat off (a PCOS side effect something weird that happens because the body holds fat in the hope of getting preggers but doesn't let the eggs go to let it happen this all started when I was 25) and putting mass on. I get hard and really strong but I don't get big...and I'd like to get some more bulk. I'm doing my research and applying the things that I've been reading and seeing (I've been lurking around here off and on since january) I've just reached the frustration point at not being able to get my body to go where I want it to go....The BC just started about 9 months ago and I'm not real attached to the daily little pill so I have no problem going off them....The PCOS was diagnosed then but even prior to that when I was young and working to compete (12 years ago) I just couldn't get really as big as I wanted, I was bigger than a lot of other women at the time but not big enough for me....I could only get so big and then cut and hard.[not like that's a bad thing either haha but it's just not enough ] Now with the challenge of fighting my body's little oddity I just feel like I want an edge up....

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Kaizen

"Omnia praeclara
tam difficilia
quam rara sunt."

||204.89.159.101||reg|| Z||000004||MS||07-27-2000||03:08 PM||mad.scientist55@hushmail.com||IF I'm reading this right, you may be suffering from another Testosterone induced side effect that all the men on these boards suffer from. It's called addiction. You're already miles ahead of the rest of us 'off' gals, you've already got most of the side effects in terms of voice, hair and size, but you still want more! There's not much advice I can give you. Winny is not going to make you much bigger, just stronger. I wonder if you have a specific goal in mind (competition?) or if you're into hugeness for hugeness sake alone, like HDarling. Just beware that the side effects you're suffering from indicate that you have plenty of T floating around to get pretty big if you apply yourself with a passion. More T than most of the women on this board taking an extra 50-100mg of AS per week.

I'm also not clear how winny (or any other AS) will give you an 'edge up' on your PCOS.||139.80.64.4||reg|| Z||000005||WarLobo||07-27-2000||05:01 PM||warlobo@operamail.com||And a fine addiction it is! Just remember MS, the "dark side" is waiting for you :p

So you just want to get bigger. OK, I can understand this. Now you better understand that all of them sides you were talking about are going to get thicker, deeper, and more pronounced. If your good with this, then primo would be my first choice for you.

Plenty of info on this and how to go about dosing too.

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