A||||23||dirtyratt||best ab exercises, anyone have any?|||||| Z||000000||dirtyratt||07-17-2000||04:04 PM||twodirtyrats@hotmail.com||i was sitting here wondering, after a long, hard workout, if anyone has any good ab exercises i could try. the same exercises are starting to get boring! how about the ab roller thing on t.v.? does it work?

(you know the thing with the wheel and handles on the sides. you can go horizontal, sideways, blah, blah, blah. i am thinking of trying it, but just for shits and giggles.) maybe it will really work.

any suggestions or ideas are helpful. thanks dirtyratt||64.38.43.228||reg|| Z||000001||riptchick||07-17-2000||05:09 PM||riptchick@operamail.com||I train abs in a tri set most workouts. I do hanging leg raises (Piked) then rope crunches and broomstick twists. I do this series five or six times or until I'm failing on the leg raises. The leg raises and rope crunches are done fairly slowly. The rope crunches I add as much weight as I can do and always go slow on the way up. The broomstick twists I do on the ab bench with the deepest decline. I train them like any other body part too. Not everyday like some. I don't know how good of a routine it is but I've always had a decent set of abs. I figure that I hit all parts of the abs with this. Upper, lower and obliques. I've heard that for some obliques develop quicker but I don't know how true that is. Just as long as they hurt the next day I'm happy. ||152.163.194.182||reg|| Z||000002||BuffBlondie||07-17-2000||05:17 PM||buffchick2@aol.com||Crunches on the resist-a-ball are by far more painful than regular crunches! You get a good prestretch and your back is supported by the curved surface.

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If you do what you've always done, you'll end up with what you've always gotten!||205.188.200.38||reg|| Z||000003||sportchic||07-17-2000||07:39 PM||tg_19@hotmail.com||hey i find that the crunches on the rope are very effective and the ones i like best...and can feel the best are the ones you do on the big ball..you lie your back on it and do cruches...whoa!! feel the burn..anyways try that out||24.67.224.12||reg|| Z||000004||Temple||07-17-2000||08:15 PM||dtkb@gpcom.net||Please excuse my ignorance but what is a rope crunch???||216.170.51.150||reg|| Z||000005||MS||07-17-2000||08:38 PM||mad.scientist55@hushmail.com||It's a long rope of red licorice coated in peanut brittle. Yum. Great for the abs.||139.80.64.4||reg|| Z||000006||IronChick||07-17-2000||08:50 PM||fit1@hotbot.com||Hanging leg raises with legs extended straight out at the end. Gotta build up to the legs straight out part. OUCH. Basic crunches. I like DB pullovers for that nice serratus tie-in. Looks good. Also, I like to throw in some oblique work but only 2x a week cuz I prefer a little embryotic obliques on a female - it's a nice touch. I hate that bulky OB look. I like the rope crunches, too. You do those on the cable machine - your on your knees kneeling down and your facing the ground pulling the rope down using your abs. Geez that is hard for me to explain if you haven't seen it.

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||192.135.215.20||reg|| Z||000007||riptchick||07-17-2000||08:51 PM||riptchick@operamail.com||I wish I had a picture of it. I searched through some sites I thought might show it but no luck.

You would use one of the stacks in your gym (either the ones for cable crossovers or the tricep one) Most gyms have the rope attachment. Looks like a "V" with big knots or rubber stoppers on the end.

Get on your knees and hold the rope on each side and bring it to about your forehead or top of your head. Elbows in and you kinda counterbalance your weight against that of the stack so your butt is stationary. You do a crunch and return to the starting position.

OK I just read this and its not a good explanation. Someone else wanna give it a try?||152.163.201.191||reg|| Z||000008||Temple||07-17-2000||08:54 PM||dtkb@gpcom.net||Ah yes, I know which one you mean - good explanations. I really liked the one from MS - sounds like a much more pleasant way to develop thos abs.||216.170.51.150||reg|| Z||000009||IronChick||07-17-2000||08:55 PM||fit1@hotbot.com||That totally made me laugh cuz I gave it two shots and deleted the 1st one but essentially
I said it the same way you did on my 1st try and read it and was like wha?? That's a tough one....I was gonna ask for someone else to try, too. I'm thinking it is simple but it isn't when u try to explain to someone who hasn't seen it.

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||192.135.215.20||reg|| Z||000010||tnheygirl||07-17-2000||08:56 PM||tnheygirl@hushmail.com||Hanging Leg Raises or crunches using an 8 pound weight on my chest

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"To Thine Ownself Be True"||166.62.188.216||reg|| Z||000011||E M T||07-17-2000||09:09 PM||asudude01@aol.com||I hope you ladies don't mind a guy posting on here. The only way I ever got my six pack to really show was when I started training my abs with no rest in between sets. I would do 4-5 exercises that hit the lower and upper abs and obliques. Trained them every other day for about 30min straight with no rest in between sets or exercises. Besides dieting, that was the only way I got my abs to show.||205.188.192.21||reg|| Z||000012||Temple||07-17-2000||11:04 PM||dtkb@gpcom.net||Okay, tried out the rope crunches with tonights ab workout and God that hurts!!! Am having a bit of a problem with my hips wanting to rotate backwards.||216.170.51.150||reg|| Z||000013||dirtyratt||07-18-2000||12:20 AM||twodirtyrats@hotmail.com||thanks for the advice. i will try all of them in the gym tomorrow.
anyone herd of that ab roller thingy? i will probably see it in another infomercial tonight.
thanks-dirtyratt||64.38.42.216||reg|| Z||000014||WarLobo||07-18-2000||10:39 AM||warlobo@operamail.com||Ab roller - at a dog's price:

Go to hardware store
Go to lawn mower section, buy wheel.
Go to hardware section, buy long bolt and two nuts. Make sure bolt fits through wheel.
Put bolt through wheel and put two nuts on. Tighten nuts against each otehr.

Late

Lobo

[This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited July 18, 2000).]||12.10.120.15||reg|| Z||000015||bikinimom||07-18-2000||01:42 PM||bikinimom@home.com||-Giant sets w/nautilus machine,
-drop set hanging leg raises,
-crunches w/weight,
-crunches off edge of bench,
-"roller thingies",
-rope crunches,
and the list goes on and on.

I combine any or all of these (depending on what I want to achieve at any given time) -
I love to drop set, giant set and super, Super, SUPER SET!!!! Saves time and gets your heart a pumpin'!

||24.4.252.72||reg|| Z||000016||MS||07-18-2000||03:12 PM||mad.scientist55@hushmail.com||Oh ya, you can also do that ab roller thingy at the gym by putting some small plates on the ends of an olympic bar, then put your hands in the middle of the bar an roll your heart out.||139.80.64.4||reg|| Z||000017||WonderWoman||07-18-2000||11:03 PM||wonderwoman@thewirehouse.com||Okay folks, speaking of obliques...
Anyone have suggestions on how to tighten as opposed to grow them. I'm feling a bit stupid on this one. My problem is that my obliques really grow easily. As a result I don't work them. Can anyone suggest something that won't give me that 'wide waisted' look?
WW||166.93.90.207||reg|| Z||000018||MS||07-19-2000||02:43 PM||mad.scientist55@hushmail.com||The only effective solution I've ever seen to that problem is building up you shoulder caps and lats so that they look proportionately larger. Either that or give up all the power-lifting moves! No, I didn't think you would go for that second option.||139.80.64.4||reg|| Z||000019||Texas Guns||07-19-2000||03:02 PM||texas_guns@hotmail.com||The main thing to do for your abs is change your routine!!!!! I use to trash my abs with leg raises, crunches, and side raises. But then they had no effect after a while. One day I tried crunches on a decline bench while a trainer tossed me a medicine ball. We did this two different ways and WHOA!!! did I ever feel that for days! I have never been a real fan of broomstick twists, but it may help in widdling that waist. Any comments on that????

Mrs. TG||216.89.50.138||reg|| Z||000020||riptchick||07-19-2000||03:58 PM||riptchick@operamail.com||Yea, I think the broom stick twists help to widdle the waist. I do them rather quickly so that the resistence is hard. I think genetics plays a big roll in how those babies respond though. I'm inclined to think that if you are already narrow there is just makes you look tighter. Some chicks I see do that are built rather square looking. The surefire way (agreeing with MS) would be to make the shoulders bigger. You couild say the same for the sweep in the outer thigh too to make a nice balance.

Sometimes I do those hanging leg raises and twist my lower body (pike position) so that my outer thigh faces up a little. Not a lot though. Concentrating on the knees being pulled up first. (ok again my descriptive abilities stink!)||152.163.194.177||reg|| Z||000021||WonderWoman||07-19-2000||10:58 PM||wonderwoman@thewirehouse.com||Oh yeah!!!
I now have permission from my 'iron sisters' to get my shoulders wider and more outer thigh sweep!!! Just call me Hannah Hooooge!!
LOL I hear ya ladies. As we all know it's about creating an illusion. An inch on the shoulders, lats, and quads, means an inch off the waist. You're right MS, can't give up the deads and cleans. Maybe I'll lay off those power moves for a while and stick with chins&pulldowns. Throw in a few lateral raises and dumbell presses for shoulders. Still not cleared by the ortho doc to squat yet, but when I am...look out. Thanks for the help ya'll.
WW||166.93.76.79||reg|| Z||000022||bigpump189||08-16-2000||07:11 PM||bigpump189@aol.com||any ab exercise is good but add a little cardio to really help your abs show||205.188.199.171||reg|| Z||000023||dirtyratt||08-17-2000||04:26 PM||twodirtyrats@hotmail.com||wow! i thought this post was dusty by now, but then again i have not been on the board as much. my abs are starting to look better, but i am going to up my cardio from none to some and work xtra hard in the gym. no more slacking. school starts next week, just bought a new car, blah blah blah. it is time for a new and improved dirtyratt.
i think i will try the broom twists tomorrow and i already do throw downs, medicine ball, crunches, etc.
dirtyratt

p.s- does the board look different to anyone else???||24.129.174.70||reg||10