. Now it is something we look forward to doing and take great steps to do everything right. Mrs. Bigguns72||24.64.3.165||reg||
Z||000001||MS||05-24-2000||06:01 PM||mad.scientist55@hushmail.com||If you haven't already read the thread
"Need info on boyfriend on stuff" a few threads down this list, then do so. If you've read them, then I don't know what else we can say to help you. It seems more a question of what type of relationship you and your husband have now, where you're headed in your relationship and how much each of you is willing to give and take to create that relationship.
What are his reasons for wanting to juice? And what are your reasons for not wanting him to? Is he willing to discuss it? Would he listen if you put your foot down and said you won't tolerate it, or would he just do it in secret (or look elsewhere for a more supportive partner??!). I know this is no help to you, but we really shouldn't be telling you what to do IMHO
Good luck
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Z||000002||Mrs. Bigguns72||05-24-2000||06:08 PM||||Thanks for your opinion....I actaully posted as well to one of the other boards and got some other opinions as well. I appreciate all the help. I'll just keep trying to learn about them and what i can do to support him so he doesn't get crazy with them.||24.64.3.164||reg||
Z||000003||JayeLynn||05-24-2000||06:13 PM||greyvulf@hotmail.com||I think there is more involved here than steroids because the bigger issue appears to revolve around respect and trust. I would consider the use of steriods in your case to be similar to any other major decision like quitting your job to pursue a graduate degree, or maybe invest all of your retirement savings in an emu ranch, etc. I would be far more interested in why he decided that it wasn't important to involve you and your opinions/feelings on a major decision that inevitably effects both of you. Hell, steroids is a major financial committment. I'm sure that it does have an impact on the household finances ...?||129.80.22.140||reg||
Z||000004||WarLobo||05-25-2000||11:17 AM||warlobo@operamail.com||Ok.... Guys point of view.
Kick him square in the nuts and ask him, "WHAT THE FUCK YOU THINK YOUR DOING!" while he is rolling on the floor.
Well, that may be a bit too harsh....
This is ALWAYS a big hairy situation when partners do not see eye to eye on the use of steroids. My dime store advice is for you to learn as much as you can about what steroids do, how they work, and what they really are all about. Then you will be able to RATIONALLY discuss this situation with your guy. Very few men make will listen to EMOTIONAL arguments. They will, however acknowledge logical and informed opinions. Example: "Look you dumb SOB, them A50's your pop'en are going to chew up your liver." This is a easy statement for a guy to understand.
Will you ever get him to stop? Probably not. I got to admit we (wife and I) were in much the same boat. But after much debate, learning, and a set of choice diamond earrings, she as even done a cycle - or two . Now it is something we look forward to doing and take great steps to do everything right.
In fact, just the other day we were just laughing our butts off as we got a package, un-wrapped it and put it into my "tool box 'O gear". I looked up and said, "In your wildest dreams did you ever thing we would be doing this when we met in college!!!" And mind you, this is a woman who has never smoked ANYTHING and can drink one Zima (god knows why she likes that stuff) and get a buzz.
One thing that will not work is to "stand firm and make no compromise." Unless you can back that up by leaving. Hey, YOU KNEW he used before.... And you still made the decision to marry him. That is on you shoulders. Ask anyone - ya really can't change men to much (or women for that matter)
The winds of life are full of changes. Bend, don't break.
So there ya have it, two bits and glass half FULL.
Late
Lobo
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Z||000005||JayeLynn||05-25-2000||01:20 PM||greyvulf@hotmail.com||I once had a long term (8 years) partner that would tell me that I would get a motorcycle "over my dead body", and although still alive is quite single these days. ...and I just bought a new motorcycle. My new partner and I talk about the steroid issue and the agreement was made that I would not do injections. The issue has cropped up again and I was told, "well I can't stop you from doing what you want to do, and I'd rather that you did not start injections. But regardless, I will love you no matter what".
...for whatever it's worth.||129.80.22.140||reg||
Z||000006||Dawn||05-25-2000||08:30 PM||mkayla2000@aol.com||I know exactly where you're coming from. My fiance and I have a 5mo baby and own our own home free and clear. Nothing scares me more than the fact that he uses illegal (no matter how you look at it, they are still illegal) steroids. I tell him over and over that if anything bad happens, we can have our child's home taken away. (he also sells them) I guess its an issue you have to decide on yourself. I love him with all my heart and want him happy and at the same time hate it. I geuss Im in the same situation as you.
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Z||000007||BigPapaPump||05-25-2000||10:20 PM||bigpapapump@usa.net||I'd agree with most of Warlobos post. Unless you have a complete understanding of the how's and why's of AS use, I don't thinks its fair for you to pass judgement on him. If you get more than the basic understanding of the true effects of AS, you might lighten up on your opinions.
My wife for example, is 100% against any type of AS usage but her opinion is not based on any true knowledge of AS. She is the type of person that will rarely even take motrin. I'm sure that she suspects that I use but has allowed herself not to really push the issue and ask me. My wife is a great lady but I would not want her to put me in a position to have to give up my cycles.
Most men are very pig headed and closed minded, you know this already. We think that we have thought about all of the side effects that might be brought upon ourselves for any given situation. I'm sure that he has no idea that his mood has changed, or that he is treating you differently. If I were in his position, if you were to calmly let me know that my demenor had changed, I would probably realize that it was from my AS use and take actions to correct it.
BPP||152.163.213.71||reg|| Z||000008||GearHead WannaBe||06-01-2000||01:37 PM||||I've never posted here before, but here goes. My wife is a nurse. She abhors my desire to do a cycle of AS. I've read a lot about it and feel fairly well informed. I've waited a long time (i'm in my thirties, thinking about it since college). If done right, I don't see how I'll be hurting my liver (booze and regular vitamins at GNC have to be processed through the liver and can "hurt" it). Its merely something to use to supplement one's body, in my opinion. I'm only 175 pounds and would like to be 200. There's no BB competition I'm training for. She has implants which she got a decade ago, and is going to replace with new ones, and she likes them (that's just another supplement to one's body). We've had our kids, so if things down there shrink a bit, so what. However, I refuse to take them until I can get her to agree its OK, because it is an important decision that should be make by both persons. I don't know how to argue my case - any suggestions from y'all???????||12.26.184.111||reg||