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lala
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 09, 2000 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lala   Click Here to Email lala     Edit/Delete Message
For my body fat,lean mass and measurements- the zone diet recommended ...

77g of protein
99g of carbs
33g of fat

for a total of 1001 calories.

Through my searches, many people have recommended this zone diet for newbies.

I did about 5 body fat calculations (different types) and they all agree that I'm 20% bodyfat and I have 95lbs of lbm.

I want to go down to 15% body fat.

What do you guys think?

lala

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bikinimom
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posted August 09, 2000 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bikinimom   Click Here to Email bikinimom     Edit/Delete Message
I'm no expert here, but I just wanna know who is going to peel you up off the floor when you pass out? And how to expect to build mass, let alone maintain the mass you have while you are starving?

The goal (of going from 20 down to 15%bf)that you have set forth is not as difficult as you think. Perhaps you should focus more on building mass. The following statement made is clear to me, "If you want to shred, you must first build mass." As your muscles grow, your metabolism will speed up (more mass = more fat burning) and you will be able to see their shape. You can be 10%bf but if you do not have muscular development - your muscles will not show. Get it?

What is your height and weight?

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lala
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posted August 09, 2000 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lala   Click Here to Email lala     Edit/Delete Message
I weigh 120 lbs and am 5 ft 2 1/2 inches.

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skydancer
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posted August 09, 2000 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skydancer   Click Here to Email skydancer     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 76679089
The zone is just that a "diet" - not livable for any huge length of time. We are striving for a life long nutrition plan to give you strength, energy, clarity and MUSCLE. The zone shoots towards a 40/30/30 balance of nutrients which actually works pretty well..but the cal's are too low.

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JayeLynn
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posted August 09, 2000 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JayeLynn   Click Here to Email JayeLynn     Edit/Delete Message
does this 1001 calorie calculation take into consideration your activity levels?

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Artemis
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posted August 09, 2000 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Artemis   Click Here to Email Artemis     Edit/Delete Message
Zone as devised by Dr Sears would probably only support your left leg. Is he a closet anorexic? Anyone know?

That said, the idea of eating plenty of protein and 'healthy' oil along with one's fibrous veggies is simply mint.


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MS
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posted August 09, 2000 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MS   Click Here to Email MS     Edit/Delete Message
Closet anorexic hehehehe...

He actually carries quite a bit of bodyfat. Either his diet doesn't work for him, or he can't stick to it (same thing really). Be careful who your gurus are. And remember Sears is also not a bodybuilder of any description.

There is no way 1000 cals per day is a healthy way for someone your size to diet. And you will never be able to gain any muscle, or even maintain what muscle you have on that low of calories (unless you're on large doses of AS?)

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lala
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posted August 09, 2000 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lala   Click Here to Email lala     Edit/Delete Message
I remember reading an article about the zone diet- and the interviewer grilled him about why he was a bit on the chunky side. He got very uncomfortable, blushed and admitted to not sticking with it.
And to answer the question above...

The zone diet does put activity level into cosideration.

I have a question again, I thought your maintenance calories were derived by multiplying your weight by 10? So if I weigh 120 lbs, wouldn't I need 1200 calories to stay at 120?

I really do like eating 40/30/30. So if I eat this way, by how much should I increase the calories?

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RACHANN
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posted August 10, 2000 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RACHANN   Click Here to Email RACHANN     Edit/Delete Message
Try this, eat your weight(in grms)in protein, 100-150 in carbs and 20-30 of fat. Try it in that way without counting calories. Too me counting calories is soo stupid. Last year when I lost 45# I was eating every 3 hrs, GOOD FOODS ONLY. Fruit, lots of greens, chicken, tuna, tons of water and just made sure I didn't eat more than 25 grams of fat. But, not once did I figure out how many calories I ate. It felt good so it worked. Energy levels were very consistant.

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JayeLynn
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posted August 10, 2000 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JayeLynn   Click Here to Email JayeLynn     Edit/Delete Message
There's no way that your maintenance calories are 1200. I would maybe agree that you don't lose any weight at 1200c/d, but would simultaneously argue that due to your metabolism shutting down.
I'm 5'4" at 135# with approximately 120# of lean mass....at 36years, and my maintenance calories are roughly 2000 on a mixed diet and moderate activity level...by my standards.

I would bet that your maint. calories are off by at least 30%....likely more!

Heres the bad news: there is no formula to tell you what your maint. calories truely are. You have to spend the time doing this trial/error thing so that you can develop some imperical data geared on your very own metabolic rate.

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MS
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posted August 10, 2000 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MS   Click Here to Email MS     Edit/Delete Message
Lala, when I start a woman on a fat-loss diet I START them at 1 cals per LBM. Very rarely do I have to reduce this number! For maintenance I always start at 16 cal per LBM, but depending on activity level and metabolism this could go to 18-20. So unless you've been dieting for too long at 1000 cals (therefore shutting down your metabolism) I think you should try to increase you calories. There's nothing wrong with the zone ratios, you just need more of everything when you're trying to build or maintain muscle while losing fat.

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lala
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posted August 10, 2000 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lala   Click Here to Email lala     Edit/Delete Message
MS,

What do you mean by 1 cal for every lbm lb?
My lbm is 90 to 95lbs right now.

I haven't been dieting with 1000 calories for a long time, only about 1 1/2 months.

My usual intake, before gaining weight was about 1400 calories- only because I rarely used to eat junk food and I mean it was very rare. So basically everything I ate was very healthy, so I ate alot, lots of greens, legumes, whole grains,lean meats and low or no fat dairy products.

I used to wegh about 107-114 fluctuating through the seasons.

I started a new job that made me eat what was around me and it was very fattening, pasta, pizza, doughnuts, big huge bagels, chinese food, the works. All this food was catered to us(at work). It was so easy and I just figured I would save some money, by not buying alot of food myself.
3 months later I gained about 20 lbs.
I was eating about double the amount of calories that I was used to.

3000 calories for a 110lb small framed women is alot,, I think.

Iv'e lost 10 lbs with exercise and a lower calorie intake. Lost it in about 3 months.
I feel comfortable at 110 lbs, that's 10 lbs away.

Any comments appreciated!!!

lala

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MS
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posted August 10, 2000 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MS   Click Here to Email MS     Edit/Delete Message
Whoopsy. I meant 12 cals/LBM, which would be about 1200 cals for you. But if what you've been doing so far is working for you (the fats coming off and you still feel good) then stick with it!

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