A||||14||rick vasser||all of you guys are pussies that say prohormones dont work!!!!!!||||||
Z||000000||rick vasser||02-01-2001||05:14 PM||wanaride22@yahoo.com||i always get huge while taking them.  i gained like crazy from medroid two years ago, and medlean last summer.<BR>you all must work out like dumb farries!<BR>1hour build up all lifts to a failure on the last rep(s) of each set 3minute maximum in between lifts and eat like a sick animal.<BR>getting big doesnt happen if you dont push yourself every time you enter the gym.  <P>i gain every day i live.||161.57.215.195||reg||
Z||000001||da big thinker||02-01-2001||05:36 PM||theos@qc.aibn.com||agreed...i have had awesome results by using androstat-150(cyclo poppers)...increased strength for sure.what trainees don't understand,is that when using andro,you must traing heavy and intense to make it work.you must always go the xtra mile...and in addition,increase your protein intake to accomodate the xtra weight being gained.rick,people on this board need to understand,so eeez up on the lingo a lil'.you'll get better responses that way.fyi<P>------------------<BR>if you don't like it,get the fuck out!||216.209.216.134||reg||
Z||000002||Valdez||02-01-2001||10:36 PM||valdez1999@hushmail.com||??? What are you talking about crack smoker ???<P>------------------<BR>"I must not fear, fear is the mind-killer.  Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.  I will face my fear.  I will permit it to pass over me and through me.  And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.  Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.  Only I will remain."<BR>--------------------<BR>"the hardest most painful rep is the easiest to remember."<p>[This message has been edited by Valdez (edited February 01, 2001).]||63.23.198.126||reg||
Z||000003||THE SMACK||02-01-2001||11:54 PM||rts54321@aol.com||i agree with valdez  hahaha hhahaha<P>------------------<BR>"Can you feel it?.. i gotta live with it everyday.. and i cant take the pressure.. im going insane now go away!"   -Godsmack||172.131.146.83||reg||
Z||000004||riskybiz007||02-02-2001||02:37 PM||riskybiz007@hotmail.com||dude what you have to understand is that not everyone responds the same to these supplements.  I've done a few cycles of prohormones before and got nothing but extra fat, as also reported by many, but my strength did climb up a lot.  And to work out harder than me... you're pretty close to insane. <BR>   In essence what i'm trying to say is that you're just ignorant, and if you don't agree with that then i agree with Valdez and call you a crack smoker||152.163.204.202||reg||
Z||000005||johnny iron||02-04-2001||01:05 PM||john_sarge@hotmail.com||Okay, maybe they worked for you, but not for many others.  One very important key element to keep in mind is that you should eat right, train hard and rest REGARDLESS of taking prohormones or not.  I used androsol once with the results of having a healthier skeptisism for prohormones.  I have a friend who swears by it.  Who's right?  My no gains vs. his gains.  Oh, and my protein levels were very high while on (almost 2 grams per lb of bodyweight).<BR>||63.59.218.211||reg||
Z||000006||lacosta||02-04-2001||01:31 PM||||I agree I never got much off of prohormones except increased aggression.||139.84.144.157||reg||
Z||000007||HamHock||02-04-2001||05:47 PM||||I have gotten good to excellent results from prohormone stacks (except Pinnacle Androstat Poppers---zilch).  About 5 lbs lean body mass using SciFit 19NorAndro Stack II (3 weeks) and nearly 10 lbs on Biotest Androsol/Nandrosol stack (2-2week cycles, 6 weeks total).  On these two, I dropped body fat and made good strength gains--particularly the Biotest stack which is, in my opinion, the way to go with Prohormones.  Granted, I worked out intensely, bumped up the protein/H20/food during these cycles, but I didn't want to waste money, so I worked at making the Prohormones work for me.  <BR>I have been at this a while, and I BP nearly 400 lbs. so I can identify placebo vs results.  Sure, for the money, gear would have probably doubled my gains, but I have the kind of job where a drug bust would be cataclysmic to my livlihood.||209.255.228.15||reg||
Z||000008||rick vasser||02-06-2001||11:12 AM||wanaride22@yahoo.com||i understand that prohormones, like creatine and other supplements do not work for everybody.  im just sick of seeing post after post about how prohormones dont work.  some people have to realise that they do work for a lot of other people, haters need to stop talking so much smak about them.  i know what im talking about also, my bench is 360 and squat 500.  although it isnt the case of many of you guys that do eat sleep and train right, there are a lot of dumb people out there who dont train properly and expect prohormones to make them huge.||161.57.215.195||reg||
Z||000009||Hot Bod||02-06-2001||12:55 PM||fma@operamail.com||Many people, when discussing prohormones negatively, are also comparing them to the real deal.  In that respect there's no comparison.  Many of them can cause side effects that you don't want like bitch tits, because they will increase your estrogen levels.<P>Many juicers will use a strong anti-est. along with their AS, and have very good results.  But they also have to train hard too, don't kid yourself.  <P>If you go to the anabolic board you'll see some guys getting flamed for not training hard, or eating right and they just get fat doing a cycle.  It's ALL relative to the individual, and their lifestyle and commitment to training and nutrition.<P>I've had some pretty good results from certain prohormones, but I don't think they compare to AS.  Just my opinion.||151.145.250.253||reg||
Z||000010||sxjunky||02-10-2001||04:10 PM||sxjunky@hushmail.com||all of you guys are pussies that say prohormones dont work!!!!!!<P>i don't think there's any need to call people pussies because they think prohormones dont' work.||199.50.26.139||reg||
Z||000011||ironbarbarian||02-11-2001||06:01 PM||||pro hormones suck dick, nothing compared to steroids. but if they work for you bro then go for it, but dont say we work-out like pussies cos its a lie. you dont know me, period.||129.171.175.36||reg||
Z||000012||WC||02-18-2001||12:45 AM||genetic_freak@ziplip.com||I used andro back in 96 while I was a junior in HS and my arms went over 18" at 5'9 and 225 lbs with a 34" waist. I used 3x the rec dose I also benched 425 my senior year while using it. Eventually got my arms over 19" while using it with shark cartlidge/creatine and a shitload of vitamins.||63.200.78.157||reg||
Z||000013||BSmooth||02-18-2001||11:41 AM||bsmooov@hotmail.com||WC how long did you keep those gains? Did you get bitch tits too?||65.2.153.18||reg||
Z||000014||Belial||02-18-2001||04:04 PM||||I swear a lot of that stuff is psychosomatic.  (or whatever).  Hell, the day after I get laid I'm always so pumped that I tear it up at the gym.  Whether or not it's extra test floating around in the system, or just the fact that I feel like an animal, I still see better gains after a good weekend...   <IMG SRC="http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/wink.gif">||152.16.211.103||reg||