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Z||000000||nhbking||10-10-2000||03:34 AM||czanstke@msu.edu||are there any certain ones that dont or do they all? i just bought this "mass stack" bullshit from NTI, one bottle of some 19-nordione with tribulus, one bottle of 5-diol, and a bottle of tribulus. should i throw it away before I get bitch tits or would one of the "natural anti-estrogens" at least prevent this (even though it may not give me any gains). also, does tribulus have any of these side effects?(not being able to find gear is really starting to piss me off and make me spend money on dumb shit!)||63.255.48.191||reg||
Z||000001||GetHuge||10-10-2000||09:32 AM||||The 5 versions are the most estrogenic and most prone to cause gyno.  I'm not sure if Nor versions can cause gyno, but any of the others could.  Tribulus won't cause gyno, since it doesn't raise test past supraphysiological rates, but it is rare to find good tribulus.  Right now, no company processes it properly that I know of.  The active ingredient you need to look for is Furstanol Saponids.  All the companies I know standardize for Steroidal Saponids, but there are many different kinds of Steriodal Saponids, and usually only a small % are Furstanol unless you happen to purchase a good batch.  Therefore Tribulus isn't as effective as it should be.  Some companies seem to have better tribulus than others though.||169.207.229.111||reg||
Z||000002||Valdez||10-10-2000||01:24 PM||||"not being able to find gear is really starting to piss me off and make me spend money on dumb shit!"<P>Your never gonna amount to SHIT with that attitude you FUCKING DUMBASS.  Go to the AS forum and do a search on a post called "what if someone told you..."<P>Nobody's making you waste your fucking money.  Bitches like you piss me off.  get in the Gym and start working out.<P>Training, diet, rest are the MOST important factors- if you can't realize that, then stop wasting everyones time on the forum!!||63.28.30.112||reg||
Z||000003||nhbking||10-10-2000||03:08 PM||czanstke@msu.edu||I do know that diet, training, and rest are the most important things, but this is a supplement forum , correct. And i already am training hard( for no rules fighting, i might add, bitch)so either give some advice or quit telling me im wasting peoples time. youre the one wasting time replying but not saying shit helpful, bitch.||63.255.49.127||reg||
Z||000004||nhbking||10-10-2000||03:19 PM||czanstke@msu.edu||to explain, what i said at the bottom of my post was basically just a funny comment, and Im sure theres others out there with the same situation. It doesnt represent any 'attitude" whatsoever, it was just a comment that I thought might get a few laughs. I never said anyone was "forcing" me to waste my money either, tough guy, so relax. this post is just to explain to members (other than over-angry boy whos probably the biggest sissy in his town) where im coming from, and that i mean no disrespect to any other members.||63.255.49.127||reg||
Z||000005||nobu||10-10-2000||06:44 PM||||yeah, i know what your sayin. the best andro that doesnt cause gyno is the diols, the best being the nor. my friends dabbled into this product and got great gains but failed to keep them because of improper diet.  so like i said whether it is andro, or norandro, always stick to the diols, they have tree times better conversion, but thier a little more expensive then the dionnes.<P>hope this helps||216.154.52.3||reg||
Z||000006||barney||10-12-2000||12:41 PM||chrism021@hotmail.com||what about creatine guys, is this known to cause gyno in some?||210.8.232.5||reg||
Z||000007||mightydog||10-17-2000||06:59 AM||mlamb90839@aol.com||Yeah man, i knew a guy who took creatine for a few weeks and woke up one day with a size D. Hahaha! Funny ass fucked up questions! Hahaha!||152.163.213.178||reg||
Z||000008||nhbking||10-17-2000||03:39 PM||czanstke@msu.edu||hopefully that was a joke||63.255.28.117||reg||
Z||000009||mightydog||10-17-2000||08:21 PM||mlamb90839@aol.com||You want a joke: What about L-Glutimine, does it cause gyno??||152.163.213.199||reg||
Z||000010||nhbking||10-18-2000||06:23 AM||czanstke@msu.edu||i got one too. hey man, will these GNC multi-vitamins give me gyno?||63.255.49.46||reg||
Z||000011||Valdez||10-19-2000||02:10 AM||||nhbking, you are an idiot.<P>this got bumped so I responeded, and YES you are wasting everyones time with this thread.  Gear is a supplement, not a fucking workout in a bottle. prohormones DON'T WORK. MY post WAS helpful because it did tell you the truth, good info.  <P>take it or leave it.<P>p.s.  You don't work hard in the gym, don't try and fool me. I KNOW ALL<BR>||63.23.203.115||reg||
Z||000012||mightydog||10-19-2000||05:50 AM||mlamb90839@aol.com||Thanks for stepping in Valdez! You would not believe how many times I've rolled my eyes at this thread. I'm with you on prohormones too. This Norabol has my attention though. Its my last trip down this prohormone road. I now Weapons X and myself started taking it about the same time and will be posting results soon. Shit better work cuz the dudes sellin' it run this board!||152.163.207.69||reg||
Z||000013||Weapon X||10-19-2000||11:56 AM||weapon.x@hushmail.com||My zit rate has increased exponentially since getting up to effective dosage on Norabol, which leads me to believe that <I>something</I> hormonal is going on...<P>------------------<BR> <IMG SRC="http://wpnx.homestead.com/files/graphics/logo.jpg"> ||12.18.184.2||reg||
Z||000014||nhbking||10-24-2000||03:13 AM||czanstke@msu.edu||oh gee, thanks for stepping in valdez. but oh wait, I just bought some pro-hormones myself like the fucking people Im trying to rip on. ridiculous. And you can find me everyday, working out harder than you Valdez, at Crown Boxing in Lansing, MI. stop by anytime sally||63.255.20.116||reg||
Z||000015||nhbking||10-24-2000||03:19 AM||czanstke@msu.edu||by the way, i saw your post that said that as of october this year you had been lifting for a year. You must be pretty scary, where's those pics? ||63.255.20.116||reg||
Z||000016||mightydog||10-24-2000||06:36 AM||mlamb90839@aol.com||Nhbking, don't ever mock me again. I will flame your ass to holy hell!||205.188.200.58||reg||
Z||000017||Valdez||10-28-2000||09:23 PM||||bump. can't we all just get along?  haha<BR>C'mon crack a smile, you can do it. ||63.23.203.181||reg||