A||N||36||Lucky||Stop Using Creatine|||||| Z||000000||Lucky||08-28-2000||01:09 AM||luckyrhoden@earthlink.net||When you stop using creatine, will most of what you had gain start to disappear?||208.24.179.202||reg|| Z||000001||MUSTANG_18||08-28-2000||01:39 AM||bgtpennington@dccnet.com||WHEN I GOT OFF A 2 MONTH CYCLE OF CREATINE ABOUT 6 WEEKS AGO I HAD GAINED A TOTAL OF 22 POUNDS( SOME OF IT WATER WEIGHT) TO THIS DAY I HAVE ONLY LOST 6 POUNDS AND A LITTLE DECREASED ENERGY. HOPE THIS HELPS

M18||216.13.168.222||reg|| Z||000002||Lucky||08-28-2000||01:52 AM||luckyrhoden@earthlink.net||Thanks for the reply Mustang....Since it seems like you keep most of what you have gain I guess it is worth using. I guess I will get me some and try it out for a couple of months. What brand did you use?||207.43.195.202||reg|| Z||000003||MUSTANG_18||08-28-2000||03:20 AM||bgtpennington@dccnet.com||WUZ UP LUCKY !!

I USED PROLABS CREAPURE CREATINE MONOHYDRATE AND AST NY-TRO PRO 40 PROTEIN DRINK AND THAT COMBO SEEMED TO WORK GREAT. FOR THE CREATINE I DID 15 GRAMS FOR A WEEK AND A HALF THEN 4 TO 5 GRAMS AFTER THAT. I GUESS I RESPOND WELL TO THE CREATINE? GOOD LUCK !!!

M18 ||216.13.168.222||reg|| Z||000004||Recoome||08-28-2000||04:09 AM||recoome@wwf2k.com||you mixed it with your protein drink?||4.16.187.147||reg|| Z||000005||MUSTANG_18||08-28-2000||01:52 PM||bgtpennington@dccnet.com||WUZ UP RECOOME

SORRY I SHOULD HAVE WORDED IT A LITTLE BETTER. I TAKE THE CREATINE WITH GRAPE JUICE BECAUSE IT HELPS IT ABSORB IN TO YOUR BODY BETTER. I TAKE THE NY-TRO PRO 40 WITH MY MEALS. I TAKE THE CREATINE AFTER I WORK OUT. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.

M18||216.13.211.163||reg|| Z||000006||Smooth_Criminal||09-09-2000||02:58 AM||machinehead@hushmail.com||22 Ilbs with creatine in 2 months, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
what a bunch of Bull shhhhhhhhhhit.

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"..I DIDNT HEAR NO BELL!"||12.92.222.2||reg|| Z||000007||Future One||09-09-2000||08:54 AM||||The max I've heard anyone gaining with creatine is 10lbs, but it's usually lower, around 2-6lbs...

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Particle Weapon...UP YOUR ASS!!
||206.186.72.132||reg|| Z||000008||MUSTANG_18||09-09-2000||12:52 PM||bgtpennington@dccnet.com||THAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WEIGHT I GAINED IN 2 MONTHS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ALL FROM THE CREATINE BUT I AM SURE MOST OF IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS CARRING ALOT OF WATER. DON'T BE SO QUICK TO JUDGE PEOPLE.

M18

[This message has been edited by MUSTANG_18 (edited September 09, 2000).]||207.230.240.46||reg|| Z||000009||GetHuge||09-09-2000||07:28 PM||||You will lose some of the weight, but some of it should stay as permanant gains if you've been training and eating properly.||169.207.228.139||reg|| Z||000010||Veiny Forearm||09-12-2000||02:41 AM||tfp@intergate.ca||The first time I used Creatine back in 1992 I gained 15 lbs in just over 3 weeks then only about 3 more in the month following that. I lost about 5 lbs when I stopped. I have used it so much now and I only use it between cycles and I gain about 3-4 pounds when I do. (This is about 2-3 times a year.) I usually keep 2 of those it seems.||208.181.231.111||reg|| Z||000011||Julez||09-24-2000||08:24 AM||julez1@hushmail.com||22lbs?

Where you stacking this with juice. I've never heard of anyone gaining half that.

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Truth and Justice
shall triumph over
Bullshit and Bureacracy.||193.63.5.79||reg|| Z||000012||Formula||09-24-2000||08:28 PM||firehawk43@hushmail.com||Creatine+McDonalds = 22lbs. Dude you're not going to gain 22lbs in a month on anything but the juice. Unless it's all fat. But I know it's not muscle.

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On my word unleash Hell!!!||152.163.201.214||reg|| Z||000013||MUSTANG_18||09-24-2000||09:12 PM||bgtpennington@dccnet.com||IT WAS NOT MUSCLE. IT WAS MOSTLY WATER AND SOME FAT BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO PUT ON ALOT OF WEIGHT SO I ATE EVERYTHING IN SIGHT.

M18||216.13.236.72||reg|| Z||000014||Julez||09-25-2000||09:41 AM||julez1@hushmail.com||Fine.

I have used creatine and gained a few lbs.

Now I just spend the money on juice.

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Julez
Truth and Justice
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Bullshit and Bureacracy.||193.63.5.79||reg|| Z||000015||Kaisersosay||09-26-2000||09:33 PM||kaisersosay@hushmail.com||MAN GIVE THE GUY A BREAK,GAINING MASS IS NOT JUST ABOUT LIFTING WEIGHTS OR JUICING OR ANYTHING.WHAT MIGHT WORK FOR YOU MIGHT NOT WORK FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DIET,TRAIN RIGHT GET PLENTY OF REST.IF YOUR TRYING TO BULK THATS THE POINT IT'S TO GAIN AS MUCH "MASS" AS YOU CAN.WHO CARES IF ITS WATER,FAT, AND/OR MUSCLE.YOU'RE TRYING TO GAIN SO WHEN ITS TIME TO CUT YOU LOSE THE FAT AND THE WATER.I'M SURE I'D LOOK BIGGER AT 210 WITH SOME WATER AND FAT THEN 185 W/O.NOW I SAID BIGGER NOT BETTER,BUT ITS GETTING COLD OUT YOUR SHIRT IS NOT COMING OFF ANYWAY.MUSTANG 18 STICK WITH WHAT YOUR DOING IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING.(AND THATS JUST FOOD AND CREATINE IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEEN)

[This message has been edited by Kaisersosay (edited September 26, 2000).]||216.206.201.67||reg|| Z||000016||RugbySheriff||09-27-2000||02:00 AM||sheriffben@aol.com||I used Creatine and just got bloated!!! As the label says "results may vary"

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Keep on Ruckin!||198.214.144.1||reg|| Z||000017||Julez||09-27-2000||07:29 AM||julez1@hushmail.com||Creatine WILL make you bloated 'cause you do retain water.

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Julez
Truth and Justice
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Bullshit and Bureacracy.||193.63.5.154||reg|| Z||000018||thermo||10-13-2000||10:07 AM||||not a big fan of creatine. you can get creatine from eating food. when i took creatine i became bloated and looked like a water buffalo in the face, you retain water on it , but some people swear by it , also i have heard of people becoming injury prone while taking this supplement, personally i have no use for it||152.163.213.178||reg|| Z||000019||Recoome||10-13-2000||07:26 PM||recoome@wwf2k.com||I think most of the people that get bloated from creatine, take it with too much simple carbs. Try taking it by itself.||4.16.187.66||reg|| Z||000020||HIT Bodybuilder||10-13-2000||10:48 PM||hitbodybuilder@aol.com||Yeah you can get creatine from food. Red meat is the best source, but you would have to be eating a lot of it in order to even get 5 grams. I like Effervescent Creatine, but another good creatine that product that I enjoyed was Anavol-R, but it costs a lot of money. I love Muscle Link products, but the real good ones are very pricey.

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Train Intensely, Infrequently and Briefly

-HB-||152.163.197.178||reg|| Z||000021||Lil Juicer||10-14-2000||03:20 PM||liljuicer@hotmail.com||22lbs with creatine?||205.188.193.173||reg|| Z||000022||Julez||10-16-2000||10:29 AM||julez1@hushmail.com||I said it before, I'll say it again.

CREATINE IS NOT ALL THAT GOOD!

It's expensive, it tastes like shit, you need to take it frequently...

NO WAY, NEVER, NOT POSSIBLE 22lbs (10 kilos).

I got these sorts of gains after my last heavy Sust/Deca cycle 3 years ago.

Oh yeah and I kept most of it

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Julez
Truth and Justice
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Bullshit and Bureacracy.||193.63.5.201||reg|| Z||000023||HIT Bodybuilder||10-16-2000||09:16 PM||hitbodybuilder@aol.com||Well Julez,
Where does it say that creatine has to taste good in order to produce results? Creatine is expensive? Depends what kind of creatine you're purchasing. Powder creatine is very cheap. Creatine transports can get pricey. Obviously creatine didn't work for you, but what makes you think that it wouldn't work for everyone else? You didn't state that, but you're knocking the supplement. You're right, you do have to take it frequently, just like almost anything else. When you're dieting don't you have to eat frequently in order to produce good gains? Sorry if it sounds like I'm putting you down, but I don't see the problem with taking something frequently. I don't believe you have to take it that frequently. Maybe for the loading phase if you include one. I'm not saying that creatine will work for everyone. Your posts just seem very closed minded. And 22 pounds of muscle gain does seem impossible. But keep this in mind. If he did gain 22 pounds was it all from creatine? Probably not. A combination of productive workouts, dieting, good amounts of rest and genetics delievered the gains. I did the Size Surge diet a few years ago and I supplemented with creatine and meal replacements. I gained a total of 40 pounds in three months. 15 pounds of it was water, but the rest stayed. It wasn't fat gain, because I had my bodyfat tested every week to make sure that I wasn't gaining any fat. I actually lost 2% of my bodyfat. The 25 pounds came from weight training, diet, supplements and most importantly genetics.

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Train Intensely, Infrequently and Briefly

-HB-||205.188.193.46||reg|| Z||000024||Recoome||10-17-2000||04:19 AM||recoome@wwf2k.com||Hey HIT, there's a special diet you have to follow with the Size Surge routine? ||216.126.185.20||reg|| Z||000025||HIT Bodybuilder||10-17-2000||07:09 PM||hitbodybuilder@aol.com||It's not anything special, it's just a diet plan that they recommend.

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-HB-||152.163.201.58||reg|| Z||000026||BigJay81||10-18-2000||02:40 AM||auto42457@hushmail.com||Stop busting his ass If he said he gainned 22lbs so be it. He has no reason to lie to anyone.

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Lift
Until You Die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!||152.163.195.206||reg|| Z||000027||MUSTANG_18||10-18-2000||06:02 PM||bgtpennington@dccnet.com||THANKS ALOT TO EVERYONE FOR THE SUPPORT. LIKE BIGJAY SAID I HAVE NO REASON TO LIE, I WAS JUST TELLING U GUYS WHAT MY EXPIRIENCE WAS WITH THIS PRODUCT. AND TO CLEAR THINGS UP IT WAS NOT ALL MUSCLE, MOST OF IT WAS WATER AND MY BF WENT UP A LITTLE BECAUSE I WAS BULKING BUT I AM GUESSING I DID PUT ON SOME MUSCLE IN THOSE 2 MONTHS.

M18||216.13.237.90||reg|| Z||000029||Platinum||10-20-2000||12:35 AM||keyper23@hushmail.com||Hmm...The only person I heard of who gained more than the standard 5-10 pounds of weight was a girl who was loading her creatine and then found out she had gotten pregnant, she actually gained 24 pounds. I am not making any accusations, just stating what I know. So, I guess 22lbs is not out of the realm of possibility.

Platinum ||129.24.14.17||reg|| Z||000030||fourhundred||11-06-2000||06:34 AM||fourhundred@usa.net||CREATINE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES||212.252.1.184||reg|| Z||000031||HIT Bodybuilder||11-07-2000||07:17 PM||hitbodybuilder@aol.com||I believe the reason why I gained a lot of weight is because, I'm a genetic freak!!! I believe I have better genetics than the average lifter, so I'm thankful.

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Train Intensely, Infrequently and Briefly

Check out http://pub30.ezboard.com/bhitsgymofbodybuilding

-HB-||152.163.194.201||reg|| Z||000032||he-man||11-08-2000||08:19 AM||docbravo69@yahoo.com||Creatine has helped me out before - gained close to 7 pounds. The bigger I have gotten the less I seem to gain with it though. I'd rather spend the limited amount of cash I have on either gear or protien!||139.232.202.200||reg|| Z||000033||filo||11-11-2000||05:19 PM||filo6942@hotmail.com||no||64.20.101.183||reg|| Z||000034||LivinLarger||11-15-2000||10:50 PM||steelhard20s@hushmail.com||+6lbs when on it -6 if off everytime.||64.136.33.34||reg|| Z||000035||MICHLDAV||11-18-2000||11:25 AM||missel_dk@hotmail.com||I'm with livinlarger. Most people gain about 5 punds quickly-looking on the scale only, and thinks DAMN this is great! (WATER; WATER; WATER) go 'of' the creatine, and the 5 pounds does to.

I believe you can gain 22 pounds in that time WITH and WITHOUT creatine, but NOT without food
MikE H.

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"Favours, favours can get you killed faster than a speeding bullet!!"
*MYTH 1(READ ON A AS BOARD) : "The greatest sideeffect of DNP is that your girl can't get pregnant when your'e on it"
My reply: Well kid, those plastic inflatable girls can't get pregnant anyway.||212.97.221.195||reg|| Z||000036||wholestackchad||11-20-2000||07:22 PM||||to the one that said that you will look better at weighing 200 something pounds compared to 180 or whatever pounds..i think you are a dumb shit..by the way,,i believe creatine helps some in some cases but you should eat very great indeed..don't just eat anything you see for you will look like shit..i hate 3300 calories daily in the right percentages of fat, protein, and carbohydrates and was on creatine and anabolic andro stack and i gained great amounts in 2 months..i looked better and bigger than people 20 or more lbs more than me..so, don't give me that crap..anyway,,good luck in getting all that fat off if you are the one that said it doesn't matter rather it is fat or not..you must be shooting in the ass to get it off so quickly..thanks again||208.34.214.112||reg|| Z||000037||KooL-AiD||11-25-2000||07:07 PM||kool_aid_0@hotmail.com||Yeah I agree. I think people at 180 look better than people at 200. It is all Body Fat.

180 @ 6% 169.2lbs LBM
200 @ 15% 170lbs LBM

The 180lb person will look way better.

Weight isn't everything LBM is.

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