A||||1||StevieD||Therms and creatine|||||| Z||000000||StevieD||04-19-2000||10:00 AM||||This is a major debate in my gym. Are you wasting your money if you are taking therms and creatine, since creatine causes you to retain water? Some people say you are - whereas others say that therms give you a rush and creatine gives you strength. Am I likley to lose fat if I take therms whilst still on creatine?

Also - has anyone ever taken more than the recommended daily intake of xenadrine - I'm intrigued to know whether they have a serious effect if you take too many (e.g. hyperactivity).||194.83.240.17||reg|| Z||000001||BEEFY171||04-19-2000||03:39 PM||sjwchicago@hotmail.com||I took metabolift(a thermo) and creatine for two months and got excellent results. I also got on andro 4 for three weeks and it tuened out very well!||216.230.75.154||reg||